RE: Nurburgring under threat - again

RE: Nurburgring under threat - again

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Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

186 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I just don't understand how they struggle to make money off the place. Many of the major car manufacturers do testing there and people drive their cars over from other countries just to experience a drive around that hallowed turf. Everyone who loves driving knows about the Nurburgring.

How could they be so ridiculously incompetent as to screw it all up?

I guess it was a ridiculous idea making a themepark and a hotel there.. it should have just been kept as it was. A race track.

MattOz

3,914 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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News just in from the Save the Ring team.............

Richter/Lindner (NAG) officially sacked as Nurburgring operators, all contracts cancelled - including Formula 1 concession!

Interesting. smile

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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MattOz said:
News just in from the Save the Ring team.............

Richter/Lindner (NAG) officially sacked as Nurburgring operators, all contracts cancelled - including Formula 1 concession!

Interesting. smile
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhein-zeitung.de%2Fstartseite_artikel%2C-Live-Blog-So-erklaert-das-Land-den-Rauswurf-der-Paechter-_arid%2C377106.html&act=url

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Chrisgr31

13,500 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Chicane-UK said:
I just don't understand how they struggle to make money off the place. Many of the major car manufacturers do testing there and people drive their cars over from other countries just to experience a drive around that hallowed turf. Everyone who loves driving knows about the Nurburgring.

How could they be so ridiculously incompetent as to screw it all up?

I guess it was a ridiculous idea making a themepark and a hotel there.. it should have just been kept as it was. A race track.
Presumably the real problem is repaying the loans that have been used to finance it all?

jetpilot

242 posts

157 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Chicane-UK said:
I just don't understand how they struggle to make money off the place. Many of the major car manufacturers do testing there and people drive their cars over from other countries just to experience a drive around that hallowed turf. Everyone who loves driving knows about the Nurburgring.

How could they be so ridiculously incompetent as to screw it all up?

I guess it was a ridiculous idea making a themepark and a hotel there.. it should have just been kept as it was. A race track.
At the point where the local gov have paid for the build etc (according to this article), all they have had to do is general running costs, although i am sure thats huge, it isnt like they have funded the 330 million out of their profits!

Could it be an intentional ploy to run it into the ground and then offer the government a "buy out" where it then miraculously starts to make profit?

E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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AndyWoodall

2,625 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Did they ever get that rollercoaster working? Presume it never will now!

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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"We want to consistently be a bottomless pit to the ground," said Eveline Lemke.

That must explain why it's 26 euro a lap now. They need all the money to fill it.



Mannginger

9,096 posts

258 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Never been but I do hope they don't close it and not operate it whilst they piece this mess together in the courts. After all NAG won't run it if they're not getting paid and I doubt the local government will want to shoulder the operating costs directly and they may not be able to re award the contract to another company whilst NAG fight the decision n the courts (assuming they do)

Very messy indeed - who in the local government will stand up to the mess of awarding the ridiculous contract to NAG in the first place?

gaz9185

105 posts

172 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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At least it appears the missing EU billion euro funds don't appear to have gone there - unless they were in the brown envelopes - so appoint some auditors who wear normal spectacles and then what they save can go to Angela and she can solve the problem.....German elections coming up?biglaughsmashclapbanghead

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Frances The Mute said:
That must explain why it's 26 euro a lap now. They need all the money to fill it.
A fiver when I first visited; and Im not an old geezer either...

Sub5s

66 posts

154 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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They should start to freeze assets and arrest people like Richter and the polititians involed in this fraud.
Then give the 'Ring to the people who really care about the track, motorsports and the region.

Jamesp24

309 posts

171 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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This is all looking rather worrying,I hope its open on the 20,21st march frown

fingersprice

51 posts

155 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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jetpilot said:
Baryonyx said:
There must be a British bank involved somewhere!
Or a Labour government smile
Or the Greek government smile

fingersprice

51 posts

155 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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GC8 said:
Frances The Mute said:
That must explain why it's 26 euro a lap now. They need all the money to fill it.
A fiver when I first visited; and Im not an old geezer either...
It was still on 18 euros when I went in 2008.....

Dale Lomas

218 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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20-21st? DN? Me too... smile

Munich

1,071 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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gtdc said:
This may be a little simplistic but, if they don't pay the rent they don't get the circuit surely?
If the law is the same as when renting out a property, then I'm afraid not. If you rent out a property and the tenant decides not to pay the monthly rent, then as the landload there is very like you can do until the court process has ran its course, which can take up to 2 years. That means 2 years of no rental income while the tenant still lives in the property!

Edited by Munich on Tuesday 7th February 14:52

Jamesp24

309 posts

171 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Dale Lomas said:
20-21st? DN? Me too... smile
Yup smile

gtdc

4,259 posts

284 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Munich said:
gtdc said:
This may be a little simplistic but, if they don't pay the rent they don't get the circuit surely?
If the law is the same as when renting out a property, then I'm afraid not. If you rent out a property and the tenant decides not to pay the monthly rent, then as the landload there is very like you can do until the court process has ran its course, which can take up to 2 years. That means 2 years of no rental income while the tenant still lives in the property!

Edited by Munich on Tuesday 7th February 14:52
In which case the news "Richter/Lindner (NAG) officially sacked as Nurburgring operators," will be subject to some lengthy legal proceedings?

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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fingersprice said:
GC8 said:
Frances The Mute said:
That must explain why it's 26 euro a lap now. They need all the money to fill it.
A fiver when I first visited; and Im not an old geezer either...
It was still on 18 euros when I went in 2008.....
DM12 I believe, when I first went - it was virtually deserted too, apart from locals in tricked-up Mk1 Golfs.