RE: New Audi RS4: revealed

[TheRoadWarrior]

Park'O said:

dave stew said:

If Audi is looking for inspiration to avoid RS5 style criticisms it could do worse than use the old RS4 as a blueprint. But then, why not just buy one of them instead? Looking at the specs it's surprising how close the old car runs the new one, being just 30hp down and a tenth slower to 62mph. And there was a manual version. Good ones are still making strong money - as much as £30K - and a quick browse of the classifieds reveals a plentiful supply.

Can't disagree with this comment at all - are next generation models that much better these days?

Better dynamics, less drag than the old version.

It's got a monster four point two litre V8, an automatic gearbox and no doubt weighs almost 2 tons... how much difference can the aerodynamics make?!

[lgomgf]

RRS_Staffs said:

North West Tom said:

It looks very subtle. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

Good in my book
Stealth = good

Plus one here.... I loved because of the fact no one can see the difference from a normal A4 2.0 TDI, except for the front bumper and grille... Is it possible to put the grill from a A4 in this RS4???

[F1GTRUeno]

Actually looks worse than the S4 due to looking exactly the same apart from the horrid front bumper/lower grille.

The previous RS4 was one of the best looking sports saloons/estates ever made IMO, much rather have a good used one of them.

[Ved]

Isn't the torque (317lbs ft) a little underwhelming for such a performance model? Nice car, mind.

Edited by Ved on Wednesday 15th February 11:27

[Park'O]

TheRoadWarrior said:

Park'O said:

dave stew said:

If Audi is looking for inspiration to avoid RS5 style criticisms it could do worse than use the old RS4 as a blueprint. But then, why not just buy one of them instead? Looking at the specs it's surprising how close the old car runs the new one, being just 30hp down and a tenth slower to 62mph. And there was a manual version. Good ones are still making strong money - as much as £30K - and a quick browse of the classifieds reveals a plentiful supply.

Can't disagree with this comment at all - are next generation models that much better these days?

Better dynamics, less drag than the old version.

It's got a monster four point two litre V8, an automatic gearbox and no doubt weighs almost 2 tons... how much difference can the aerodynamics make?!

10mpg ??

[Ved]

This is a worry

"In addition to the sport differential, another component available for Audi drive select is dynamic steering. It varies its steering ratio by nearly 100 percent depending on the speed driven and automatically countersteers slightly at the cornering limit for even more precise and stable handling."

The thought of someone buying such a powerful car but feeling the need for the steering to be done in part for them, is making me light headed.

[RichTBiscuit]

No Manual gear box

[E38Ross]

this is a big moment for audi. the RS5 isn't that old and has already proven not to be as dynamic as the M3, could Audi's 2nd chance at making an M3-beater fail?

the german power war is officially over.

i'm also surprised, we hear news of turbo charged cars and people saying "NA is better etc etc" and now, within the first few posts we get 2 people saying it needs turbo chargers. WTF

[Nors]

Cupramax said:

goffahsez said:

Like this a lot.

Needs manual box and flared arches for my personal taste though.

Nice

Its got flared arches, are you blind?

They must be well disguised right enough!!

[Dave Hedgehog]

E38Ross said:

this is a big moment for audi. the RS5 isn't that old and has already proven not to be as dynamic as the M3, could Audi's 2nd chance at making an M3-beater fail?

the german power war is officially over.

i'm also surprised, we hear news of turbo charged cars and people saying "NA is better etc etc" and now, within the first few posts we get 2 people saying it needs turbo chargers. WTF

power war over? RS6 is rumoured to have 600+ bhp

and i liked blown engines, they have more character, don't buy into this jurno led "has to be NA" crud

[E38Ross]

Dave Hedgehog said:

E38Ross said:

this is a big moment for audi. the RS5 isn't that old and has already proven not to be as dynamic as the M3, could Audi's 2nd chance at making an M3-beater fail?

the german power war is officially over.

i'm also surprised, we hear news of turbo charged cars and people saying "NA is better etc etc" and now, within the first few posts we get 2 people saying it needs turbo chargers. WTF

power war over? RS6 is rumoured to have 600+ bhp

rumoured....

that will be interesting, will Audi release a car where the next model will be less powerful?

well....the new M5 and E63 are less powerful than the old RS6 despite being newer (the 2 manufacturers could easily have trumped 580bhp), the M3 was made the same power as the old RS4, audi release the RS5 and RS4 will less power than the C63.

it used to be a case of whatever one released, it was the most powerful out there at that time, that's not happening these days....

[Nors]

E38Ross said:

this is a big moment for audi. the RS5 isn't that old and has already proven not to be as dynamic as the M3, could Audi's 2nd chance at making an M3-beater fail?

the german power war is officially over.

i'm also surprised, we hear news of turbo charged cars and people saying "NA is better etc etc" and now, within the first few posts we get 2 people saying it needs turbo chargers. WTF

To be fair, it's in estate only, so is it really a direct competitor for the M3? I thought that would be the RS5 being a coupe. (no direct competitor from Audi on the saloon front)

It does look like the power war is over, in the past, a new RS4 would have a good few more hp on it's incumbent rivals.

Edited by Nors on Wednesday 15th February 11:44

[Park'O]

Luca Brasi said:

Nice to see it has a proper engine!

?? It's the same as the previous version.

[GetCarter]

Mine due in Sept.

[Adz The Rat]

That doesnt look half as good as the last model.

[Nors]

GetCarter said:

Mine due in Sept.

I take it you haven't been able to properly spec it though? Seems Satnav is still an option!

Reckon the price will start with a 6? too.

[D200]

Overpriced & Obsolete

You could buy a nice used Lamborghini Gallardo for that

[Nors]

D200 said:

You could buy a nice used Lamborghini Gallardo for that

And where exactly do you / can you compare an estate car with a 2 seater in just about any way?

Strange comparison and old v new doesn't count.


I could get a new Tractor for my farm for the price of a used Gallardo.

Edited by Nors on Wednesday 15th February 12:11

[RockyRoad]

D200 said:

Overpriced & Obsolete

You could buy a nice used Lamborghini Gallardo for that

sighs

[E38Ross]

D200 said:

Overpriced & Obsolete

You could buy a nice used Lamborghini Gallardo for that

your point being? i don't think many people go "i need a car which is fast, quiet, comfortable and needs to carry 4 or 5 people in comfort as well as a weekend of luggage for us all" and comes away with a 2 seater sports car.

muppet