Any cars with over 200bhp, more than 35mpg for under £3000?
Discussion
Baryonyx said:
I quite like the Starlet Glanzas (s
t name though). There are plenty of crap looking ones around, but there are a few decent looking ones but they tend to attract a premium. I hear they can be fairly nippy, though the handling is poor and the interior rubbish. I'd still like to have a go and see though.
I miss mine, red, 99 plate, recaro interior and an LSD.t name though). There are plenty of crap looking ones around, but there are a few decent looking ones but they tend to attract a premium. I hear they can be fairly nippy, though the handling is poor and the interior rubbish. I'd still like to have a go and see though.Managed a 14.3 at 100.4mph at Santa pod!
They're not the best handlin car in the world but they're a lot of fun and so easy to work on.
SMcP114 said:
UK Dc2 Integra type R?
I was looking at these recently and it seems below £4000 the qaulity is a tad variable. One dealer I spoke to said the DC2 he had in stock had an engine warning light on, which he at first suspected was an O2 sensor failure but his mechanic checked the car and reckoned it was 'only' a problem with the catalytic convertor! Thank goodness for that! I was worried it might be an £80 O2 sensor at first!
StottyZr said:
Celica 190 looked like a good shout but I've just looked them up and its 33mpg and 0-60 in 7.2 which isn't really better than the Mgs 7.4 seconds and 37mpg.
Mine has been getting between 33 and 37mpg on my commute so far. I'm sure it could do 40mpg on a run. Not sure how the ZR is in real life though.As 0-60 times mean precisely naff all I'm not sure that's a really valid reason to discount a car.
StottyZr said:
The MG is also in a lower tax bracket.
This is a good point, however 
Baryonyx said:
I never saw more than 30mpg out of mine, even on long dual carriageway drives (I did a run from Newcastle to Wetherby and back when I bought it).
Could it do more than 30mpg? Maybe, if you're below the boost threshold of the turbo. But it's just coming into turbo range at 70mph, so cruising will see it guzzle fuel. The gearing is pretty short and punchy, and I was getting about 22-23 mpg out of mine around town when taking it easy and less than 20 when I was really giving it some.
I'd also steer clear of ones with the boost turned up to up the bhp. It's got more than enough grunt as it is, and even my standard example could struggle to get the power down in the wet. Just buy a standard one and revel in it, if you can afford to run them they are really good cars.
Sounds like something was wrong with yours, I've got 38.5mpg on a run and around 27mpg around town. Mine is the heavier GT version too (rev 3). As for struggling to put the power down in the wet, I have no such problem. The engine is right over the driven wheels and provides brilliant traction; it's why they make such successful drag cars. Sure, if you red line it and dump the clutch it struggles for grip but you really have to be trying. Could it do more than 30mpg? Maybe, if you're below the boost threshold of the turbo. But it's just coming into turbo range at 70mph, so cruising will see it guzzle fuel. The gearing is pretty short and punchy, and I was getting about 22-23 mpg out of mine around town when taking it easy and less than 20 when I was really giving it some.
I'd also steer clear of ones with the boost turned up to up the bhp. It's got more than enough grunt as it is, and even my standard example could struggle to get the power down in the wet. Just buy a standard one and revel in it, if you can afford to run them they are really good cars.
Back on topic, I'd be looking at a Clio 182.
Baryonyx said:
SMcP114 said:
UK Dc2 Integra type R?
I was looking at these recently and it seems below £4000 the qaulity is a tad variable. One dealer I spoke to said the DC2 he had in stock had an engine warning light on, which he at first suspected was an O2 sensor failure but his mechanic checked the car and reckoned it was 'only' a problem with the catalytic convertor! Thank goodness for that! I was worried it might be an £80 O2 sensor at first!
Also, here in N.I, you'd struggle to pay over 4k for one. I can't understand the price differences in them from here to England. I done a deal on one yesterday that I'd describe as 'good' condition for £1950, with 12 months MOT and no tax. It's not what I'd describe as show condition, but I'd be fussy.
Clio 172 would be the best bet especially if you want to try track it too, and easy to drive quickly.
I have driven a Fiat Coupe 20VT which was great for the money and worth a look if insurance is ok. Running a servicing is worse than the Clio.
Alternative option is a Leon 170 TDI remapped. I have been out in one which dynoed at 220hp and 350 lb ft of torque. It wasnt too bad even on a trackday, It'll easily reach your economy figures, and get less attention from insurers and the boys in blue.
I have driven a Fiat Coupe 20VT which was great for the money and worth a look if insurance is ok. Running a servicing is worse than the Clio.
Alternative option is a Leon 170 TDI remapped. I have been out in one which dynoed at 220hp and 350 lb ft of torque. It wasnt too bad even on a trackday, It'll easily reach your economy figures, and get less attention from insurers and the boys in blue.
Baryonyx said:
psummers said:
MR2 turbo? It’s got around 240bhp (up to 280 with a few inexpensive mods), 25-35mpg and surprisingly cheap insurance.
£3000 would get you a decent example too.
I never saw more than 30mpg out of mine, even on long dual carriageway drives (I did a run from Newcastle to Wetherby and back when I bought it).£3000 would get you a decent example too.
Could it do more than 30mpg? Maybe, if you're below the boost threshold of the turbo. But it's just coming into turbo range at 70mph, so cruising will see it guzzle fuel. The gearing is pretty short and punchy, and I was getting about 22-23 mpg out of mine around town when taking it easy and less than 20 when I was really giving it some.
I'd also steer clear of ones with the boost turned up to up the bhp. It's got more than enough grunt as it is, and even my standard example could struggle to get the power down in the wet. Just buy a standard one and revel in it, if you can afford to run them they are really good cars.
samdale said:
HAHA Even my N/A won't see 35mpg easily. Cracking cars though. Best BHP an N/A will have is 170-odd (7.something to 60), unless you are jammy enough to find a 'beams' for that money...
I can't see how an n/a wouldn't get 35mpg. I was getting consistently over that in my turbo driving to and around Cornwall, with two people in the car and both boots filled with luggage.
I was down to 26mpg around town in the cold weather recently, but I've found my MR2 pretty economical for what it is.
Adam190 said:
Celica T Sport.
Only 190bhp but has the 7 second to 60 time you want.
Can easily be got for under 3k.
You can probably get a high mileage S2K for that price too, not sure if i would want too though.
Dont think i have ever seen 35mpg even trying in mine(corolla).90 miles to 20quid tesco 99 driving like a nun .and only one engagement of lift.28mpg allround Only 190bhp but has the 7 second to 60 time you want.
Can easily be got for under 3k.
You can probably get a high mileage S2K for that price too, not sure if i would want too though.
clio 172 is the only answer
Edited by pimpchez on Monday 27th February 22:57
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