Any cars with over 200bhp, more than 35mpg for under £3000?

Any cars with over 200bhp, more than 35mpg for under £3000?

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Polarbert

17,923 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Clio 172 Cup if it hasn't been mentioned already.

KieronGSi

1,108 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...



Might struggle on the MPG a little but matches everything else.

Toaster Pilot

14,622 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Speedracer329 said:
My Jag S Type 3.0 manual does the 0 - 60 in about 7.5 secs, I get 34mpg on a run & 27 around town if I don't abuse it, & you can pick them up for well under your budget.


Edited to say, just seen how old you are, most youngsters think Jags are an old mans transport.
Seriously considering one of these (also 21 laugh) - seem like a lot of car for the money and hopefully some wafty comfort too cloud9

Vladimir

6,917 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Are CTRs down to that price level yet? Not a bad option.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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carl0s said:
sparks_E39 said:
E36 328i. Now you are 21 any BMW that isn't an M will be pretty cheap to insure. I've had my 528 since I was 21. 0-60 about 8 seconds, MPG at 70 mph is 35 if you take it easy, although it will only average that on longer journeys, I've done 40 mpg to a tank before. 200 mile round trip to London and back, no traffic and being gentle cruising at 60-70 mpg was 42ish mpg (verified). Normal tank is 23-25 mpg though.
Add ripped boot floor subframe mounts to the list of expected problem with that one!! Run, don't walk.
That's an early E46 problem, not E36. Or ay least it's rare on the E36. It's certainly not a reason to avoid them.

Edited by Devil2575 on Tuesday 28th February 07:37

AMST09

570 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Vladimir said:
Are CTRs down to that price level yet? Not a bad option.
Easily, but would they be a complete dog?

AMST09

570 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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StottyZr said:
Celica 190 looked like a good shout but I've just looked them up and its 33mpg and 0-60 in 7.2 which isn't really better than the Mgs 7.4 seconds and 37mpg.

The MG is also in a lower tax bracket.

Fiesta ST is 38mpg with 0-60 in 7.9, these can easily be modified.

Basically, on paper its quite difficult to beat a Zr 160s mix of performance and fuel consumption with cost of purchase.
ST will only acheive that when you change gear at 2000rpm everytime, trust me I tried it and got 41mpg, most of the time I got 34mpg, but alot of the guys on the ST forum are getting below 30mpg, some as low as 22mpg
Depending on town driving etc....

AlecG

1,349 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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A 325ti compact? I've got one, it's just under 200bhp - 192 I think, will have a different power delivery, is rwd, fairly uncommon, and can be picked up cheap! Mine (an SE) was under £3k with a FBMWSH, 81k on the clock, a grim colour but all the toys and half leather!

I got 37.6 mpg on a run to Sheffield from Reading (verified!) and drive through a town centre twice a day and get 29-32mpg depending on traffic...

It sounds lovely too, and with traction control off is fun!

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Devil2575 said:
Captain Muppet said:
I had a £600 BMW 535i that had 220bhp and would do 30mpg. The spare £2400 could go on petrol.
30 mpg? From a 535?

Down a hill maybe but I'd say 20mpg was more like it...
Yes, 30mpg. I had to drive economically to get 30mpg, but it is possible.

Also I could drive the same route and get a single figure MPG, which was way more fun. I miss that barge.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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As said above, get the Clio 172/182. I had one and it would do 33mpg on my normal (brisk) commute.

MrWhale

173 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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330Ci if you can find one for £3000, 35mpg if driven carefully, worst case for me is 20mpg driven hard.

Nice solid car, Nice interior, Sport still looks fresh, Decent Level of kit I switched from a 3.0 z4 to an "old" 330 which cost me less to buy than I lost in depreciation on the z4, does not feel like a downgrade at all..

Only thing I would replace it with is a 130i or a z4c but at 3 - 4 times the cost of the 330ci struggling to justify it.


Roman

2,031 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Clio is the easiest option. Otherwise a VAG with the 1.8T engine (+ remap) - Audi A3 1.8T, Octavia VRS or Ibiza Cupra.

Risotto

3,928 posts

213 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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'200bhp' is pretty meaningless - you need to consider the weight of the car it's powering too.

As economy is a concern, I'd suggest getting a light car with marginally less than 200bhp - it'll be quicker than some lumbering great saloon that has the magic 200bhp.

As others have said, get a Clio 172/182. They're reasonably quick, well-equipped, cheap to buy, handle very well and routinely achieve the required mpg figures.


Edited by Risotto on Tuesday 28th February 11:22

daveknott5

731 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Has to be an E46 330d surely

matthias73

2,883 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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durbster said:
StottyZr said:
As 0-60 times mean precisely naff all I'm not sure that's a really valid reason to discount a car.

StottyZr said:
The MG is also in a lower tax bracket.
This is a good point, however smile
Took out a bunch of the quote, apologies if messy.

No, 0-60 times are very important as they give you a rather accurate idea of how fast a car accelerates. Sure, it wont tell you what the handling is like, but clearly he wants a fast accelerating car.


RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I would be looking at EP3 Civic Type Rs at this price too, will be fairly high milage as it will be the bottom end of the market, but if you look around I bet you can get a prefacelift thats been well maintained. 100k+ isnt a problem for these if maintained well.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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RobCrezz said:
I would be looking at EP3 Civic Type Rs at this price too, will be fairly high milage as it will be the bottom end of the market, but if you look around I bet you can get a prefacelift thats been well maintained. 100k+ isnt a problem for these if maintained well.
I've heard the engines haven't suffered a single failure. But this might be an urban myth?!

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Vladimir said:
RobCrezz said:
I would be looking at EP3 Civic Type Rs at this price too, will be fairly high milage as it will be the bottom end of the market, but if you look around I bet you can get a prefacelift thats been well maintained. 100k+ isnt a problem for these if maintained well.
I've heard the engines haven't suffered a single failure. But this might be an urban myth?!
Yeah urban myth, the vtec system hasnt suffered a failure, not the engines. However the engines (and other mechanicals) are still very reliable.

Risotto

3,928 posts

213 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Vladimir said:
RobCrezz said:
I would be looking at EP3 Civic Type Rs at this price too, will be fairly high milage as it will be the bottom end of the market, but if you look around I bet you can get a prefacelift thats been well maintained. 100k+ isnt a problem for these if maintained well.
I've heard the engines haven't suffered a single failure. But this might be an urban myth?!
Honda have always claimed they've never seen a vtec failure in one of their engines. Subtly different from saying they've never seen the failure of an engine with vtec!

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Gaz. said:
carl0s said:
I heard it was common between the E36 and E46.
I've never heard about it on the e36 before.
The E36 325 was the car to suffer from this. The E46 328 and M3 were, too.