Why do people sell after an expensive repair?
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limpsfield said:
rottie102 said:
SystemParanoia said:
shrug, i just wanted it gone tbh buyer beware etc
Don't worry, karma will get you eventually thinfourth2 said:
As they have lost faith in the car and are utterly pissed off with buying a super reliable car that turns out to be junk
Agree with this. I traded in my BMW 318 last November as it had done nothing but cost me money over and over for nearly 2 years - I wouldn't have minded if it was all routine maintenance and wear and tear but it wasn't. I threw over £2k on that car in non-routine maintenance and I could have spent another £1k easily to get it right.I just 'snapped' one day and thought 'fk it, had enough'.
Did this three years ago. Had a Jag XKR which scared the life out of me and I decided to sell it after our holiday in France.
On the drive back the steering got a bit vague at much over 90 so had it checked by my local genius when I got home. He recommended a repair that in the end cost me £1400 and though I didn't HAVE to do it since no-one on a test drive is likely to do over 90 and notice it, I couldn't in all conscience risk someone buying it and it then going wrong while they're driving it.
Had the steering and suspension fixed and sold it the next week and of course didn't get a penny extra for it but at least I know the car was a good 'un.
On the drive back the steering got a bit vague at much over 90 so had it checked by my local genius when I got home. He recommended a repair that in the end cost me £1400 and though I didn't HAVE to do it since no-one on a test drive is likely to do over 90 and notice it, I couldn't in all conscience risk someone buying it and it then going wrong while they're driving it.
Had the steering and suspension fixed and sold it the next week and of course didn't get a penny extra for it but at least I know the car was a good 'un.
Lost faith in our Defender only a year after buying it - it was such a money pit despite being only 57 reg. Had £5k of work done under warranty (after a HUGE battle) and spent loads more on non warranty stuff. It was clear we'd been sold a worn out duffer by a main dealer so got shot of it after having almost everything replaced that goes wrong with them - I suspect it might run fine for years now but once the faith has gone - that's it.
Mr2Mike said:
SystemParanoia said:
shrug, i just wanted it gone tbh buyer beware etc
Oh well that makes it ok then.Thing is even a proper repair on one of those would not cost the 1000s the OP had in mind. Far from it, peanuts to rectify in comparison. Shame on those with that mindset.
Loss of confidence. Over the years lost count of the number of time folks I know have bought what everybody "knows" are reliable cars ( ..) .. only to discover they are nothing of the kind and cost BIG TIME. They then get rid.
Quite a few have castigated me for my lifelong choice of cars accusing me of being lucky that I do not ever have such problems of the size and cost that they do.
There is much more to it than that but, when i explain things from my point of view, their responses would makje good content for the
"Stupid things non-petrol heads say" thread.
In my direct personal experience with some cars which have cost much in previous ownership so they quickly get rid, the root cause is sometimes pro-repair outfit incompetence. Those many car users who do not know where their car's bonnet release is tend to suffer from this badly. They simply do not have a clue and that is always costly for them.
Again over the years, I have bought ( cheaply ) one or two of these 'problem' cars and guess what, after proper assessment and correct identification of the problems which are then correctly rectified, nice reliable car.
Done it twice.
Both times I'd fixed everything that required it then something else went so finally you get sick of it as there is always something else that can go wrong.
Once with a Saab 99 and once with an Audi A6 - its quite probable the next owners had years of trouble free service.
Both times I'd fixed everything that required it then something else went so finally you get sick of it as there is always something else that can go wrong.
Once with a Saab 99 and once with an Audi A6 - its quite probable the next owners had years of trouble free service.
Pressure to conform is another factor.
Amongst the more 'follower sheeple' amongst us, images implanted in the heads of shiny new front wheel drive chariots with zero percent finance seems beckoning. It's what their friends are doing, the lack of drama seems welcoming to such a degree that after a while, this sort of denial makes them ignore the fact that waisting 25K on a new car rather than 1500 on repair of an older one makes better economic sense. After a while selctive focus means they focus on the mpg and totally ignore the savage depreciation , to say nothing of payments (if bought on finance) or the fact that you're now driving a piece of boring consumerist tin.
Amongst the more 'follower sheeple' amongst us, images implanted in the heads of shiny new front wheel drive chariots with zero percent finance seems beckoning. It's what their friends are doing, the lack of drama seems welcoming to such a degree that after a while, this sort of denial makes them ignore the fact that waisting 25K on a new car rather than 1500 on repair of an older one makes better economic sense. After a while selctive focus means they focus on the mpg and totally ignore the savage depreciation , to say nothing of payments (if bought on finance) or the fact that you're now driving a piece of boring consumerist tin.
Daston said:
For me I had the engine rebuild done on the tuscan as at the time I didnt know it would be going up for sale, as it happens I would have done it anyway as I wouldn't buy the car if it was burning oil so why should I expect anyone else to.
Surely it depends what is wrong. And it goes without saying in any advert you make it clear what is wrong and price the car accordingly. Not telling someone there is a major problem when they know very well there is a problem speaks volumes about that person (and also to add even if you were that type stating on an Internet car forum where you may sell in the future isn't the smartest of moves).
I guess for me when I buy a car if it's over £1.5k in value I will get the seller to put a new 12 months MOT on the car as part of the sale that tales care of the safety items. Clearly I check the tyres lights seatbelts etc myself but for added piece of mind.
Slate my crappy old Vauxhalls if you will, but I will never be in that situation where I can't afford to fix any of my cars, or be 'scared' that I have a duff car or that a big bill is looming.
Also, not that anyone cares, you know buying a car from me simply means I'm bored with it, or want to try something else (as the case with my old Mk3 Astra, GTE cabrio and my Saab Turbo, all of which are serving their new owners well to this day).
I know many other people who've suffered and been in this situation (hell, have been in it myself before I decided to sort myself out), but they're either not interested enough to learn or just want shiny and use a 'dodgy' car as an excuse.
Also, not that anyone cares, you know buying a car from me simply means I'm bored with it, or want to try something else (as the case with my old Mk3 Astra, GTE cabrio and my Saab Turbo, all of which are serving their new owners well to this day).
I know many other people who've suffered and been in this situation (hell, have been in it myself before I decided to sort myself out), but they're either not interested enough to learn or just want shiny and use a 'dodgy' car as an excuse.
MGJohn said:
Yes, it does ...
Thing is even a proper repair on one of those would not cost the 1000s the OP had in mind. Far from it, peanuts to rectify in comparison. Shame on those with that mindset.
Loss of confidence. Over the years lost count of the number of time folks I know have bought what everybody "knows" are reliable cars ( ..) .. only to discover they are nothing of the kind and cost BIG TIME. They then get rid.
Ha! I'm actually guilty of that one John. Spent months doing research on 330Cd's, the guys on the BMW forums were telling me they were a great buy as long as they had FSH, the swirl flaps had been removed and the oil breather was the new style; nothing much else goes wrong with them, apparently! Sounds great! Really nice looking car in M Sport guise imho and found one fairly local that ticked all the boxes. Turned out to be the most unreliable piece of crap I've ever owned but by some stroke of luck I managed to flog it within 3 months without spending a penny on it other than a service and actually got £50 more than what I paid for it. To actually bring it up to standard would've cost £4K+ in parts and labour (DMF, turbo, heater control unit 'hedgehog' thingy, both thermostats, aircon compressor/pump, various suspension/steering control parts). The car had only done 55k.Thing is even a proper repair on one of those would not cost the 1000s the OP had in mind. Far from it, peanuts to rectify in comparison. Shame on those with that mindset.
Loss of confidence. Over the years lost count of the number of time folks I know have bought what everybody "knows" are reliable cars ( ..) .. only to discover they are nothing of the kind and cost BIG TIME. They then get rid.
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