Mk1 MX5 a girls car? Maybe....but what IS a girls car?!

Mk1 MX5 a girls car? Maybe....but what IS a girls car?!

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Chuck21

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181 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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No doubt a subject that’s been done to death over the years but it re-emerged this week when I announced to my wife that I will be buying a mk1 Mazda MX5, a car she immediately denounced as a ‘girls car’ – a view shared by many I’m sure! Now I have no issue at all with people holding this opinion although I must say I disagree; I do agree that the MX5 is a good sports car FOR girls (and I mean this in no way patronisingly) in that it’s attractive, fun to drive, and easy to look after. However, to my mind and that of many other car enthusiasts the MX5 (particularly the mk1) isn’t a girls car but rather an outstanding drivers car with a rev-happy twin-cam, agile chassis and ample opportunity for ‘enhancements’ that can’t be bettered for the money; to my knowledge more mk1 buyers are now male than female; does that make it a mans car? Probably not, but perhaps a drivers car….

Anyway, I posed the question at work (a female dominated office) and the unanimous response was that it WAS indeed a girl’s car but when I asked WHY it was a girls car responses became more uncertain. One colleague said it was because it was a small, attractive convertible but then conceded that the Elise matches that description and is a ‘mans’ car so she added that it’s because the MX5 is curvy rather than angular so is body-shape the answer? Are the original Elan and Alfa Spider therefore girl’s cars?

My view is that a ‘girls car’ if there is such a thing is a car which adheres to pretty/feminine form over function i.e. Vauxhall Tigra, Suzuki Cappuccino, Ford Street Ka, and dare I say it Audi TT (185) convertible etc whereas the MX5, MGF, Barchetta etc are all fine drivers cars and engineered with the driver firmly in mind. I’m sure however that this argument could also be picked to pieces!

So what is a girls car; can it be defined objectively or is purely a matter of wholly subjective opinion?!

Answers on a postcard!

Roadru77er

473 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Agree with the above. But are they not hairdresser's cars instead? Or worse GAY?

Why "pigeon hole" a car (Or anything?confused)

soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Who cares what they think, get it bought. biggrin

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Pink paint and eye lash headlights not too manly nono

Eunos

111 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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I'm an MGF owner so probably a bit biased, but I find a lot of the supposed girls/hairdressers cars to be a cracking drive.

I suppose anything that can be considered pretty or cute is probably up for being called a birds car. Oddly enough those kind of comments I've had about my little ghey roadster have been from middle aged fat lads...


CBR JGWRR

6,533 posts

149 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Pink.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Girl's car = any car owned by a girl.

HTH.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Purely a matter of subjective opinion, which is heavily influenced by a social discourse that small 2 seater roadsters are girls cars!

Unless its a classic, in which case it is not. Apparently.

I don't think there is an awful lot of rational thought or logic involved. Its why when really pressed on the issue they couldn't really answer.

(I am a man and have an MR2 Roadster incidently)

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

150 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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2 seater sports cars used to be mens cars, when men wore hats, smoked pipes and looked good in tweed. The arrival of the hot hatch saw the sorts car all but die. When it re-emerged with the MX-5 men had moved onto sharp suits, big mobile phones and Golf GTI's. Girls were the main customers of new MX5's (and MGFs). This is why they have become a girls a car. No fault of the car itself.

Nick

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Eunos said:
a lot of the supposed girls/hairdressers cars to be a cracking drive.
Quite right. It's very odd the way the "new Brit" aspires only to an overweight 4x4 or a guppy-faced Audi with its engine hanging out over the front wheels.

vdubbin

2,165 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Get her to drive it with the roof down, she won't be long confirming that yes, it is indeed a girl's car, and no, you can't have it back… biggrin

Bisonhead

1,568 posts

189 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Any car that can be accessorised! Pretentiously 'sporty' cars, any standard Mini (BMW), old superminis

DaveH23

3,236 posts

170 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Funnily enough I had a conversation about good handling cars a while back and although I haven't driven one I mentioned the MX5 and somebody said they are st girly cars.

I then asked him to explain and he said 'they just are'.

Can anybody actually explain 'why' they think the mx5 is a girly car as looking at the OP's comments I can only see positives.

Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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girly cars are to me anything that looks effeminate:

mx5
z4 convertible
elise
TT
new mini
fiat 500
baby merc convertible

that kind of thing

Chuck21

Original Poster:

181 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
girly cars are to me anything that looks effeminate:

mx5
z4 convertible
elise
TT
new mini
fiat 500
baby merc convertible

that kind of thing
Cheers Dave and thanks for all the comments so far.

Dave, not disputing your list as such but the point of the thread is to determine not WHAT cars people think are girly, but WHY they're considered girly. Is it subjective opinoin or are there objective criteria?

devnull

3,754 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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DaveH23 said:
Can anybody actually explain 'why' they think the mx5 is a girly car as looking at the OP's comments I can only see positives.
Noone can. They say it because other people say it. Sheep. Could also be a jealousy thing.



royobannan

126 posts

192 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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I'm not sure anyone can say a Z4 looks girly!

TinyCappo

2,106 posts

153 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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The Mx5s little Gay cousin = Suzuki Cappucccino...........unless tuned to the balls wink

Cockey

1,384 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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IMO, I think it's all down to how aggresive a car looks. Standard Z3 = Girly, Z3M = manly.

On the flip side, big turn on for me is pretty girls driving "men's" cars lick

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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royobannan said:
I'm not sure anyone can say a Z4 looks girly!
A Z4 looks girly. I said it out loud too.

Always nice to get a tricky job finished before lunch.