996TT what's the cheapest it will go to?

996TT what's the cheapest it will go to?

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Devil2575 said:
The one to buy was the 993. Turbo values for them seem to be very strong, espcially compared to the 996, but then you see a lot less 993s on the road.
Agreed but you couldn't buy a 993 TT use it as a daily and expect it to be as good as the 996 TT. The miles would kill it's higher value in which case why not buy a higher milage in the first place?



SWoll

18,447 posts

259 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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Devil2575 said:
The one to buy was the 993. Turbo values for them seem to be very strong, espcially compared to the 996, but then you see a lot less 993s on the road.
Last of the air-cooled, possibly the prettiest 911 of them all and smaller production numbers. No surprise really.

One of the first cars I really lusted after as a teenager.

barrieeld

528 posts

217 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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k-ink said:
Same here. I doubt we are alone. Better looking, newer, sexier, better interior, cheaper to run, less scarey bills on the 997 carrera. It's an easy decision for me. If more people overlook the 996 their prices will vanish down to used old skyline / evo prices. Once there they will mostly be run on the cheap and become next to worthless before too long.

Edited by k-ink on Friday 16th March 13:00
I personally (and I'm prob not the only one) to say i disagree with you. The 997 may have a better interior but that doesn't concern me too much. If people want the ultimate 911 its will always be the turbo whether its in 996, 997 guise etc. I also think 997 C2's both 3.6 & 3.8 will depreciate very heavily (more than 996 turbo) in the next year, so my money is on the 996 in this case.

Ive been lucky enough to have driven both and the c2s has to be rev'd hard to get the best out of it...the turbo doesn't...not too mention chronic engine failure issues in the 997's the GT1 block in the turbo is a better engine.

Just my tuppence.

Luke.

11,002 posts

251 months

Sunday 25th March 2012
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My garage come 2015, a 996 Turbo and a Cayenne S (2007 facelift naturally), total cost £30k. Yes, please. driving

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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If an X50 hits £15k then every ph'er in the world should be dipping their hands in their pockets.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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DJRC said:
If an X50 hits £15k then every ph'er in the world should be dipping their hands in their pockets.
I cannot imagine a more suitable commuter.
Fast reliable economic (well relative) impressive and best of all perfect for opting out of the comp car.

Sure you could buy a lemon and need a warchest to fix it or more likely it will be fine with purely routine servicing

m1dg3

128 posts

155 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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As hinted at above, the reliability of the GT1 derived engine will surely mean the Turbo is always worth a healthy premium over a normal 996. I can't believe that a Carrera 2 could be had for less than £10k unless it had a reputation for destroying its engine.

What's interesting is that although it is possible to buy a Turbo for £20k, one you would actually want is more like £30k. There are a lot of Tiptronic Cabs out there with wild interiors...

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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You can change an interior and switch a gearbox to manual for way way less than £10k.


Fact is buy what you want same goes for any car bottom end prices will have compromises of one sort or another but if it's 50% off what you would have to pay for your ideal and the cash £ value means you could have a b5 RS4 2.7v6 bi turbo all for the same £30k family car and personal car makes a strong argument

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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A lot of bottom end 996tts don't have any more issues than higher prices examples, perhaps higher miles and dodgy color combos, , but as with most things, you take your chances...definately a good choice of car for a home mechanic as the parts are reasonable for a super ad but labour rates on these cars very high. The front rads and condensers are made of recycled tin cans and need replacing every 2.5 - 3 yrs @ £1000, two back tyres = £500, insurance is gp 20, well you get the picture. Bear in mind any savings you make by not having a stamped history may make the car very difficult to return to the market place.

You definately won't find a faster car, even at any price, in fact you would need a gtr to put any distance between. A lot of 996tts have been remapped which ups the power to the same as the 997tt, so even more of a bargain! Have to say the brakes are not all that, IMHO a lack of servo assist robs a bit of faith in them, it's a heavy car remember. Just remember though with all these cheap fast cars, speed isn't everything wink.

Welshbeef

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Monday 26th March 2012
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Is the brake serve assist a popular upgrade to address the wear brakes on the 996tt to get it up to 997tt levels.

This is all relative of course.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Welshbeef said:
Is the brake serve assist a popular upgrade to address the wear brakes on the 996tt to get it up to 997tt levels.

This is all relative of course.
The 997 turbo 6 pot calipers and 350mm front discs bolt straight on a 996 turbo, a few ph'ers have done this mod.

W12JFD

379 posts

166 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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If its any help I've done 55,000 miles in two years in my 997 TT - parts (including the dreaded radiators), service and tyres (changed when at Kojak level) on a quick mental top up have come to around £7k which doesn't seem too mad for this type of vehicle. Trip shows 27 mpg. Can't imagine a 996 TT would be too different. I bought it at 15k miles and now have 70k on the clock and it feels good for three times that.

Tech9 look after it superbly which saves on 'recommended' but unnecessary main dealer repairs and cuts cost dramatically.

Not cheap but certainly value for money bhp madness and indeed happiness.

Depreciation is entirely another matter.......but if I keep it long enough it'll be cheaper then changing a rep mobile every two years

Huntsman

8,069 posts

251 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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W12JFD said:
.......but if I keep it long enough it'll be cheaper then changing a rep mobile every two years
Spoken like a true PH'er.

DKL

4,498 posts

223 months

Monday 26th March 2012
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Scary thing is that there are twice as many 997 turbos in the classifieds than 996 turbos.
No doubt we'll be talking about the dramtic drop in 997 values as turbos slip under 20K especially as there seem to be more of them.

RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Thing is, can you see any of the high 30k 996 cars selling when the 997 is only a minor price point away?

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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RWD cossie wil said:
Thing is, can you see any of the high 30k 996 cars selling when the 997 is only a minor price point away?
It won't be a minor price point between the 997. The 996 will be forced much lower as the sea of used 997 gets out of hand. However the 996 may only be a minor price point above used Evos and Supras.

RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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k-ink said:
It won't be a minor price point between the 997. The 996 will be forced much lower as the sea of used 997 gets out of hand. However the 996 may only be a minor price point above used Evos and Supras.
I'm talking now, there are 996's in the high 30's/low 40's, and 997's dropping closer to 40k every month... With haggling room, who would be after a 6 instead of a 7 for very similar money?

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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k-ink said:
It won't be a minor price point between the 997. The 996 will be forced much lower as the sea of used 997 gets out of hand. However the 996 may only be a minor price point above used Evos and Supras.
If the AWD cars are similar in price (I've no idea) to a 997TT then who in their right mind would not choose the 997TT its a vastly better car in EVERY way.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Good point. The best Supras remaining may be above the prices of older 996TT in a few more years.

Welshbeef

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Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Gaz. said:
He means the 996TT will be forced into Supra/Evo territory by the 997 pushing them down (and the Supras are going up btw).
Why would you want a Supra over a 996TT?