RE: Spotted: 1965 Lotus Seven

RE: Spotted: 1965 Lotus Seven

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Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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It's worth 35K all day long.

Proper car.

suffolk009

5,421 posts

166 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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people seem concerned by how far forward the engine is. It's my understanding that the early nose cones are longer than the current caterham ones. The early bonnets being therefore shorter and sloping downward toward the front. I don't recall there being any spare room under the bonnet of an early crossflow to adjust the fore/aft position.

perhaps the O/P was just trying to rile the rivet counter within us.

annodomini2

6,862 posts

252 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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johnnymaestro said:
Sam_68 said:
Defconluke said:
Tongue in cheek post?

Looking at the open bonnet picture, the centre of the engine is well behind the lights which is rougly where the centreline of the front axle is. smile
No, that looks far forward for a 'Seven'.

If you have a look at some of the engine bay pics in the 'Caterham' classifieds, you'll see that the engine is usually a little further back (with just the cam chains/belts/front pulley, depending on engine type, hidden under the trailing edge of the nosecone), and even modern Caterhams have their engines mounted far forward compared to some 'Seven' type roadsters like Sylvas (and even Westfields).

Despite being very well developed, the design of the 'traditional' Caterham is starting to show it's age in some respects - engine position is one of them and the cobbled-on suspension modifications from the original design are another.
When I get home I will take a picture of my S2 to see how it compares with this one and show a bit more under the nose.

Price does sound alot for that little car, but then I think this car is worth a look as a project, might have to negotiate a price though, as it sounds alot for the condition it is/isn't in. But I think it could be built up for maybe less than the one shown.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C284619


Edited by johnnymaestro on Friday 9th March 13:09
Could it be due to the prop shaft?

The running gear is basically 60's Ford, a lot of the modern equivalents use shortened prop shafts, so as the unit was off the shelf, so they moved the engine + box forward to save cost?

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

155 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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FlossyThePig said:
Gorbyrev said:
Oh nuts - off to the Se7en classifieds again and out with the loan calculator. Nearly bought an 02 plate 1.6K series Roadsport a few years ago. Given current prices it would actually have appreciated! Given that, it is not hard to justify £35K for an immaculate classic.
Why are you looking at Minis? The Austin Mini was the original Se7en.
Happy to look at Minis, especially with a 17 yo about to pass his test!

Raize

1,476 posts

180 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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They have no handbrakes? :s

johnnymaestro

4,775 posts

224 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Under the dash with lever end in line with the gear stick,


predding

455 posts

217 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Your . isnt working again...should read £0.34k wink

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Here's a photo of my old 1977 Caterham Seven, complete with Lotus twin cam.

They look a long way forward, but the driver's pedal box makes it pretty much impossible to move the lump any further backwards.

Given the rarity of the S2, I don't think that it is absurdly expensive. If you just want the thrills, then a Crossflow engined Caterham can be had for seven or eight grand.


TobesH

550 posts

208 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Love it. Had a 1700 Cross Flow Sprint for a while and it made the most fantastic noise!

RevOne

49 posts

153 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Pat H said:
Here's a photo of my old 1977 Caterham Seven, complete with Lotus twin cam.

They look a long way forward, but the driver's pedal box makes it pretty much impossible to move the lump any further backwards.

Given the rarity of the S2, I don't think that it is absurdly expensive. If you just want the thrills, then a Crossflow engined Caterham can be had for seven or eight grand.

Question: Those carb flutes must sit REALLY close to the hood shroud, does it not restrict air flow especially in the front most ones?

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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RevOne said:
Question: Those carb flutes must sit REALLY close to the hood shroud, does it not restrict air flow especially in the front most ones?
Has a cutout.


RevOne

49 posts

153 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
RevOne said:
Question: Those carb flutes must sit REALLY close to the hood shroud, does it not restrict air flow especially in the front most ones?
Has a cutout.

Ahhh that would do it!

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
It's worth 35K all day long.

Proper car.
Quite. A fine, appreciating classic which won't lose you money.

KDIcarmad

703 posts

152 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Its just an old Seven-its a classic seven!


Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

179 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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CampDavid said:
Justayellowbadge said:
It's worth 35K all day long.

Proper car.
Quite. A fine, appreciating classic which won't lose you money.
Yes, I reckoned that too.

0a

23,901 posts

195 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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My mistake I thought this was SOTW.

smile

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

208 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
Yes, I reckoned that too.
It's worth what someone pays for it, and £35K looks about right to me. It's a proper Seven after all. I'm going to get one as a track car one day, with a Twincam please, keep the Elan for Grand Touring duties!

suffolk009

5,421 posts

166 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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MiseryStreak said:
Johnboy Mac said:
Yes, I reckoned that too.
It's worth what someone pays for it, and £35K looks about right to me. It's a proper Seven after all. I'm going to get one as a track car one day, with a Twincam please, keep the Elan for Grand Touring duties!
The Twinks are lovely, but the legend will wear off. For driving now you're better off with a X-flow. You can get more power, for less money. If you're not after originality then do a Zetec.

Dave Hedgehog

14,568 posts

205 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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35k? dont know

it is worth a damn sight more than that over priced RS1600i thou smile

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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suffolk009 said:
The Twinks are lovely, but the legend will wear off. For driving now you're better off with a X-flow. You can get more power, for less money. If you're not after originality then do a Zetec.
A PHer has an original SS.