What car, 4k - quickish, comfortable and nice interior.

What car, 4k - quickish, comfortable and nice interior.

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SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

154 months

philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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obob said:
300bhp/ton said:
Are the ST220s reliable?
Yes - But if the big ends go (and they're know to) you're looking at huge bills as IIRC requires a new block (if you can get one)

Great cars though. I'd look for an early 330 or Saab 9-3 depending on what you want. I've had them all and am now in a 9-3 which is for keeps. smile

obob

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4,193 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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SuperHangOn said:
That is very nice but seems to be 3k cheaper than any other so doubt it will still be for sale when I have sold both my cars - Or at least the S2000 so I have money to buy a new car. The Passat might just get scrapped.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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obob said:
Can I get a well maintained E36 M3 in budget?
No.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Devil2575 said:
obob said:
Can I get a well maintained E36 M3 in budget?
No.
Hardly "easy and cheap to fix" either...

M

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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How about something a bit more retro? Saab 900 Turbo classic?

daveco

4,128 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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How about an E46 330? Better interior than E36 albeit not as quick as the E36 M3 derivative.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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What about paying a lot less and paying for the fuel. saw a very clean W reg 7 series the other night and thought it looked a lot more than it probably cost.

I had a quick gander in the ads and found this 83hp 8 litre car (sic) with no service history (though VOSA seem to validate mileage)for £1300 but you get the idea...if it breaks, throw it away, chances are you'll get your money's worth.

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3736861.htm

surveyor

17,836 posts

185 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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obob said:
Sooooooo, need a run around for a year or so. Downgrading from a Passat TDI and an s2000 to one car.

So criteria -

- 4/5 seats
- Nicely specced interior
- Cheap/easy to fix as a home mechanic
- £4k max, would prefer £3k
- Quickish and a nice drive.
- Fuel economy above 20mpg.

I'm short on ideas, the Octavia Mk1 VRS is the only thing I can think of but it's just not quite quick enough at 7.7secs 0-60. So can I get all teh above and 6.5ish 0-60.
Volvo S60 T5

- 4/5 seats Check
- Nicely specced interior Check
- Cheap/easy to fix as a home mechanic Checkish....
- £4k max, would prefer £3k Check
- Quickish and a nice drive. Check
- Fuel economy above 20mpg. Check

Get over the image OP and have a look at one. Your far more likely to find a loved example at this money, than you are a looked after M3 or similar.

Saab 9-5 Aero also worth a look, but interior not as modern or nice.

Can't believe that people are putting forward a Mundeo!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/volvo...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/saab/...


Edited by surveyor on Wednesday 14th March 16:50

ReedyAero

353 posts

177 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

I have my first SAAB (9-5 Aero MY02) and it is great to drive - was looking at swapping it not so long ago, but nothing else has the spec, speed, newish age and economy all in one package.

Real world economy is great for the size and power, (25-35mpg depending on driving, but average over 30 for my work journey) so comfy.... even in the twisties it is sure footed and really hangs on well...

The 0-60 is claimed at 6.5 seconds, but to be honest, second gear is all you ever need to go from almost stationary to 65-70mph as 1st is gone in the blink of an eye! It is easily capable of the claimed figure!

Try one and see what you think - The boot is cavernous, I have a 10 month old little girl and we easily get everything for a weekend away in it...

ReedyAero

353 posts

177 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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surveyor said:
Volvo S60 T5

- 4/5 seats Check
- Nicely specced interior Check
- Cheap/easy to fix as a home mechanic Checkish....
- £4k max, would prefer £3k Check
- Quickish and a nice drive. Check
- Fuel economy above 20mpg. Check

Get over the image OP and have a look at one. Your far more likely to find a loved example at this money, than you are a looked after M3 or similar.

Saab 9-5 Aero also worth a look, but interior not as modern or nice.

Can't believe that people are putting forward a Mundeo!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/volvo...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/cars/saab/...


Edited by surveyor on Wednesday 14th March 16:50
The SAAB autos have manual option on the steering wheel - but in Aero guise are still 1.5 second to 60 slower than a manual...

RichTBiscuit

430 posts

152 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Left Field. Subaru Legacy Spec.B

245 HP, 4WD, Lovely interior, built like an OX.

aka_kerrly

12,419 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Audi S4, less than £4k, very quick, very practical, lovely interiors in either alcantara or leather.



There are a dozen or more for less than £4k in the PH Classified right now including estates and saloons.

dave

GAjon

3,735 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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There's a thread running on the spotted Mazda 6 MPS which might tickle your fancy?

Tonberry

2,082 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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obob said:
The E36 is not that dynamic, I've already had an M3 - and although it handles good, the steering feel is so st it's unbelievabe. Is the steering improved on the E46?

Are the ST220s reliable?
The steering feel is st on an E36 M3?

A few posts ago you were asking if you could pick one up within budget and whether they were expensive to run or not.

Now you're claiming you've owned an M3?

Make up your mind.

Fox-

13,239 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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aka_kerrly said:
Audi S4, less than £4k, very quick, very practical, lovely interiors in either alcantara or leather.
Ridiculously bonkers running costs, mind.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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What about a SEAT Toledo V5 or a Bora V5/V6

obob

Original Poster:

4,193 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Tonberry said:
The steering feel is st on an E36 M3?

A few posts ago you were asking if you could pick one up within budget and whether they were expensive to run or not.

Now you're claiming you've owned an M3?

Make up your mind.
Steering felt crap to me but I had just come from an Integra. I had one about 5 years ago and paid 9k for it so I had no idea if you can get one for 4k. And as mine never went wrong and at 21 you don't ever consider the possibilty of it going wrong I wondered what likely costs I might accrue. But I've just remembered parts are expensive and there's always the Vanos in the back of your mind.

Tonberry

2,082 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Fair enough, cheers for clearing that up.

Personally I would stay away from the M3 if you're after low running costs.

S-Type 4.2 V8
S-Type 3.0 V6
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero
Saab 9-3 Aero
E46 330

I'm in a similar position to you at the minute and I'm looking at the above.

tjlazer

875 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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I'd say the e46 330i is the embodiment of the poster's stated requirements being both quick enough to overtake most vehicles with ease, extremely comfortable (although less so in the back as the suspension is quite stiff) and most are sold with a bloody nice interior that is solidly built. I am of course biased but I'm quite taken with mine...until I inevitably need some M power back in my life.