RE: Brand loyalty: £250K on 23 Peugeots
Discussion
SeenTheStrings said:
Wow, some of PH's members really are insightful, knowledgable and measured! This is the most crass, vulgar and bilious trolling I've seen on PistonHeads yet.
OK, so you don't like Peugeots. That's your choice. To this chap they represent a transport choice that meets his needs. Surely that's every bit as valid as buying a car based on the opinions of people you've never met, which is what a lot of people do. Besides, if you're going to judge this guy solely on his choice of car, perhaps you're so shallow that your opinions aren't worth much anyway. And all you Adonis types out there who are too beautiful to post a photo of yourselves because it would make us all jealous should simply be thankful that you have looks to die for, rather than mock someone whose reflection in the mirror isn't as pleasing as your own...
Is it fair to play the 'my tax bought this' card. Er, no. Your tax bought his services as an employee. What he chooses to do with his income is his business. Just like all those evil consultant suregons who selfishly exploit people's misfortune in becoming ill so they can smoke around in Bentleys and Porsches.
As Riggers said, the real deal here was the non-news that a repeat purchaser was rewarded with a small gift. But here's the thing: it's a much nicer to read this story than it is to read about recession, crime and disaster, isn't it?
Fortunately, we're not all Troy Queefs (thank God) and there are more 'ordinary' people driving 'boring' cars than there are ace helmsmiths warrioring around in 335Ds (mapped or otherwise).
There's a line between a bit of good-natured ribbing and ill-humoured bullying. This jumped clean over it and then some.
Oh, and on the depreciation question, it's really easy to work out, should you obsess about such things. You add up all the money spent on the cars then subtract the combined value of and that you still own. It's not rocket science, people, it just takes a little common sense. Unfortunately, this thread has proved that common sense is far from common...
Spot on. OK, so you don't like Peugeots. That's your choice. To this chap they represent a transport choice that meets his needs. Surely that's every bit as valid as buying a car based on the opinions of people you've never met, which is what a lot of people do. Besides, if you're going to judge this guy solely on his choice of car, perhaps you're so shallow that your opinions aren't worth much anyway. And all you Adonis types out there who are too beautiful to post a photo of yourselves because it would make us all jealous should simply be thankful that you have looks to die for, rather than mock someone whose reflection in the mirror isn't as pleasing as your own...
Is it fair to play the 'my tax bought this' card. Er, no. Your tax bought his services as an employee. What he chooses to do with his income is his business. Just like all those evil consultant suregons who selfishly exploit people's misfortune in becoming ill so they can smoke around in Bentleys and Porsches.
As Riggers said, the real deal here was the non-news that a repeat purchaser was rewarded with a small gift. But here's the thing: it's a much nicer to read this story than it is to read about recession, crime and disaster, isn't it?
Fortunately, we're not all Troy Queefs (thank God) and there are more 'ordinary' people driving 'boring' cars than there are ace helmsmiths warrioring around in 335Ds (mapped or otherwise).
There's a line between a bit of good-natured ribbing and ill-humoured bullying. This jumped clean over it and then some.
Oh, and on the depreciation question, it's really easy to work out, should you obsess about such things. You add up all the money spent on the cars then subtract the combined value of and that you still own. It's not rocket science, people, it just takes a little common sense. Unfortunately, this thread has proved that common sense is far from common...
Good luck to him. He obviously has finances that can support his purchasing choices. I've bought 2 new cars in the past for circa 18k before I worked out that if I changed cars every 3 years I'd lose around 9k every time. I personally decided that I didn't want to write off ~27k every 9 years. I believe that if you wouldn't miss this kind of money then you can truly afford new cars. Some people would do well to think beyond the monthly payments and think of HP cash as their own before
signing the agreement.
For others it's not an issue and good luck to them. The industry needs new cars sold for balance to be achieved.
signing the agreement.
For others it's not an issue and good luck to them. The industry needs new cars sold for balance to be achieved.
Dave Hedgehog said:
Hellbound said:
Oh dear. On so many levels.
indeadwhat more can you say ...
they must be pissing themselves at his dealership
mercfunder said:
Numeric said:
Most sales people are very short term so they care about next months bonus only.
With respect that is b
ks, the majority of sales people do actually care about their customers and the products they sell, the ones only motivated by the cash are found out very quickly.It is probably because the sales guys care about the customer that he has kept going back to the same dealer.
(I would say that I'm talking mass market here - if I popped into Caterham I'd expect a very different mentality based around the car capability and service - BUT - I still imagine the sales person was on commision rather than salary!)
Edited by Numeric on Wednesday 21st March 09:28
mercfunder said:
Numeric said:
Most sales people are very short term so they care about next months bonus only.
With respect that is bks, the majority of sales people do actually care about their customers and the products they sell, the ones only motivated by the cash are found out very quickly.It is probably because the sales guys care about the customer that he has kept going back to the same dealer.
A bit off topic but the point is that not the majority of dealerships think about long term customer service and one galring omission is the interconnection between Sales and Service ie the Sales guy should have the ability to monitor all his 'sales' coming in for service and check on customer feedback - even this is weak at my selling BMW dealership and I will be moving to another dealership for service.
SeenTheStrings said:
Wow, some of PH's members really are insightful, knowledgable and measured! This is the most crass, vulgar and bilious trolling I've seen on PistonHeads yet.
OK, so you don't like Peugeots. That's your choice. To this chap they represent a transport choice that meets his needs. Surely that's every bit as valid as buying a car based on the opinions of people you've never met, which is what a lot of people do. Besides, if you're going to judge this guy solely on his choice of car, perhaps you're so shallow that your opinions aren't worth much anyway. And all you Adonis types out there who are too beautiful to post a photo of yourselves because it would make us all jealous should simply be thankful that you have looks to die for, rather than mock someone whose reflection in the mirror isn't as pleasing as your own...
Is it fair to play the 'my tax bought this' card. Er, no. Your tax bought his services as an employee. What he chooses to do with his income is his business. Just like all those evil consultant suregons who selfishly exploit people's misfortune in becoming ill so they can smoke around in Bentleys and Porsches.
As Riggers said, the real deal here was the non-news that a repeat purchaser was rewarded with a small gift. But here's the thing: it's a much nicer to read this story than it is to read about recession, crime and disaster, isn't it?
Fortunately, we're not all Troy Queefs (thank God) and there are more 'ordinary' people driving 'boring' cars than there are ace helmsmiths warrioring around in 335Ds (mapped or otherwise).
There's a line between a bit of good-natured ribbing and ill-humoured bullying. This jumped clean over it and then some.
Oh, and on the depreciation question, it's really easy to work out, should you obsess about such things. You add up all the money spent on the cars then subtract the combined value of and that you still own. It's not rocket science, people, it just takes a little common sense. Unfortunately, this thread has proved that common sense is far from common...
OK, so you don't like Peugeots. That's your choice. To this chap they represent a transport choice that meets his needs. Surely that's every bit as valid as buying a car based on the opinions of people you've never met, which is what a lot of people do. Besides, if you're going to judge this guy solely on his choice of car, perhaps you're so shallow that your opinions aren't worth much anyway. And all you Adonis types out there who are too beautiful to post a photo of yourselves because it would make us all jealous should simply be thankful that you have looks to die for, rather than mock someone whose reflection in the mirror isn't as pleasing as your own...
Is it fair to play the 'my tax bought this' card. Er, no. Your tax bought his services as an employee. What he chooses to do with his income is his business. Just like all those evil consultant suregons who selfishly exploit people's misfortune in becoming ill so they can smoke around in Bentleys and Porsches.
As Riggers said, the real deal here was the non-news that a repeat purchaser was rewarded with a small gift. But here's the thing: it's a much nicer to read this story than it is to read about recession, crime and disaster, isn't it?
Fortunately, we're not all Troy Queefs (thank God) and there are more 'ordinary' people driving 'boring' cars than there are ace helmsmiths warrioring around in 335Ds (mapped or otherwise).
There's a line between a bit of good-natured ribbing and ill-humoured bullying. This jumped clean over it and then some.
Oh, and on the depreciation question, it's really easy to work out, should you obsess about such things. You add up all the money spent on the cars then subtract the combined value of and that you still own. It's not rocket science, people, it just takes a little common sense. Unfortunately, this thread has proved that common sense is far from common...
Chill pill required !
Numeric said:
Butter Face said:
Numeric said:
I was on the wrong side of all this and boy did the dealers treat the poor sap who came in and traded the car and didn't ask for discount badly - and look what happens here - a bit of shabby PR.
Yet without these people the dealerships would go bust.....
What do you mean by badly? I expect he gets treated very very well as do most repeat customers to dealerships. Yet without these people the dealerships would go bust.....
I think the story here is NOT the character of the person concerned or his taste in cars, but rather the attitude of Peugeot toward what represents a proper "award" worthy of this customers loyalty.
He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
toppstuff said:
I think the story here is NOT the character of the person concerned or his taste in cars, but rather the attitude of Peugeot toward what represents a proper "award" worthy of this customers loyalty.
He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
They didnt need to do anything, but as they had it should have been a little less mean looking.He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
toppstuff said:
I think the story here is NOT the character of the person concerned or his taste in cars, but rather the attitude of Peugeot toward what represents a proper "award" worthy of this customers loyalty.
He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
Sort of. Peugeot are a business, there to make money as is oft said on PH. There's no doubt they've been successful on that point here; I doubt they've been particularly ruthless and yet this person has repeatedly gone back and bought from them to a fantastical extent.He seems a perfectly decent fellow I am sure.
Peugeot, on the other hand, seem to be taking the piss.
Whoever runs Peugeot's corporate comms team should hang their head in shame.
I wouldn't think a weekend in an R8 a dreadful offer from Audi after spending 20 years in an A3, or a GT from Ford. This guy for some unfathomable reason chooses Peugeot so why would they offer him anything else? Unless they think their cars are s
t too.I'm not sure some clumsy attempt at PR is quite as much a story as spending so much money in a Peugeot garage for such a long time. He'll never get those years back.
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