Are remaps worth it?
Discussion
Chrisw666 said:
The differences you will get will vary hugely depending on what you are going to have long term. The 1.6d focus in the MK2 came in two power levels from the factory the 90bhp one feels sluggish next to the 110bhp one that was good enough to keep most people out of the 2.0d.
I own a 1.6 [110], and have driven many times a 2.0TDCi, and it doesn't seem that much quicker, certainly not quick enough to warrant it averaging 45 mpg as opposed to 53/54 (admittedly the 2.0 is Powershift, mine's manual).I've thought about a remap, and I have it on good authority there are decent gains to be had from my car (thank you AmD Essex), but there are other things I don't like so I'd rather just switch to a different car altogether.
Oh no, a video with before and after comparisons of a remap on a fairly ordinary Golf GTI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLvvxMCUo5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLvvxMCUo5E
obob said:
Chrisw666 said:
The first ones were 150bhp, everyone knows that safe power doesn't start until 175.
Unless.. do those X3s weigh the wrong side of 3 tonnes?
Would you look at that, Gaz was quick enough to save me pressing the report button. Some people are incredible..
Anyway, to drag this back onto topic - as many have said, it does very much depend on the original car and what state of tune the engine is in from the factory. I know, for example, you can get considerable gains out of Audi's 2.0TDI with very little effort. On the vast majority of modern turbocharged diesels, you can see 15-20% power gains or more without having to worry about any other components, so yes, it is a cheap and effective way forward. £300 is a decent ballpark figure for a good quality map tailored to the engine in question.
You will need to tell your insurers, technically speaking, so check by running quotes on their online systems first. Most will only charge a small amount more, despite not really seeming to know what a remap is and thinking this is 1985 with "engine chips" knocking around instead, but some baulk at it and will either screw you over or refuse cover. It's a dodgy one that some people get around with the theory "there's no easy way an insurer could tell", but I wouldn't take the risk myself.
Plenty of this research is possible before you've got a car in mind - most remapping companies publish their usual achievements on a particular car/engine along with their prices, and you could also do comparative insurance quotes beforehand. HTH
Anyway, to drag this back onto topic - as many have said, it does very much depend on the original car and what state of tune the engine is in from the factory. I know, for example, you can get considerable gains out of Audi's 2.0TDI with very little effort. On the vast majority of modern turbocharged diesels, you can see 15-20% power gains or more without having to worry about any other components, so yes, it is a cheap and effective way forward. £300 is a decent ballpark figure for a good quality map tailored to the engine in question.
You will need to tell your insurers, technically speaking, so check by running quotes on their online systems first. Most will only charge a small amount more, despite not really seeming to know what a remap is and thinking this is 1985 with "engine chips" knocking around instead, but some baulk at it and will either screw you over or refuse cover. It's a dodgy one that some people get around with the theory "there's no easy way an insurer could tell", but I wouldn't take the risk myself.
Plenty of this research is possible before you've got a car in mind - most remapping companies publish their usual achievements on a particular car/engine along with their prices, and you could also do comparative insurance quotes beforehand. HTH
Back to the question - on a turbocharged engine a remap does make a noticable difference. 1.6d to 2.0d performance? - maybe but with different characteristics.
However, i'd suggest buying / leasing a car that you are happy with as standard rather than one that you hope will be tranformed by a remap.
However, i'd suggest buying / leasing a car that you are happy with as standard rather than one that you hope will be tranformed by a remap.
MarkRSi said:
obob said:
Chrisw666 said:
The first ones were 150bhp, everyone knows that safe power doesn't start until 175.
Unless.. do those X3s weigh the wrong side of 3 tonnes?
My vRS Octy (TSi petrol) was 7.2 secs 0-60 standard. Its sub 6 secs 0-60 with a Blue Fin. However its the mid range acceleration that is most noticeable with the remap. 40-70mph and 60-100mph is incredibly fast and makes for some very easy overtakes. I felt it was very worth the £500 and made the car what it should have been out of the factory (its now the same bhp and torques as the Leon Cupra R which has the same engine).
anonymous said:
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If its an auto turbo diesel, there's a good chance you could class it as dangerous. I've driven a couple, you wait at junctions, pull out, foot through the floor and the lag is unbelievable - I'd guess at a second delay of nothing whilst the artic coming is about to wipe you out - those examples had 150 + 200 bhp - *some* remaps take away a bit of this problem.But back on topic, yes I've remapped a turbo petrol before (Leon Cupra R) and the difference is very noticeable. I had the boost controller so you could turn the map on/off - almost boring when it was off.
Tyson1980 said:
obob said:
It's 183hp out of the box, how can it be too slow that it's dangerous? Your point is mute fella...
Your point is now mute
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