Fuel in the UK - How much, and how long would it last
Discussion
Just interested in peoples views. Especialy those that work in the industry.
Say hypotheticaly, the supertankers stopped arriving on the shores of the UK tomorrow.
How much of the stuff is there actualy in the major terminals at any one time?
When would it run out? 1 week 2 weeks?
Could the gov ration it?
How much of a just in time operation is this fuel supply business?
Say hypotheticaly, the supertankers stopped arriving on the shores of the UK tomorrow.
How much of the stuff is there actualy in the major terminals at any one time?
When would it run out? 1 week 2 weeks?
Could the gov ration it?
How much of a just in time operation is this fuel supply business?
Would the 'test tube crude oil' research be accelerated (or removed from suppression if you like conspiracy)?
We loves our oil but the price rises must be getting too painful for some. What is going to happen? Will we see a slow migration from piston to cell (and eventual collapse again due to too much tax on leccy for whatever excuse it will be)?
We loves our oil but the price rises must be getting too painful for some. What is going to happen? Will we see a slow migration from piston to cell (and eventual collapse again due to too much tax on leccy for whatever excuse it will be)?
Scoobman said:
not260 said:
Oil is pumped direct to refineries from the North Sea, so wouldn't run out as such. As far as I know anyway.
I never knew that - but thinking about it, it makes sense.Scoobman said:
not260 said:
Oil is pumped direct to refineries from the North Sea, so wouldn't run out as such. As far as I know anyway.
I never knew that - but thinking about it, it makes sense.I'm tempted to start panic buying, just keep a couple gallons in the garage just to be on the safe side.
If fuel keeps rising in price though I'll go back to my old trick of topping up at the end of every day (did this last time fuel prices "rocketed", but are cheap in comparison to today's prices), since it will be cheaper than waiting until the next day to put double the amount in etc etc.
If fuel keeps rising in price though I'll go back to my old trick of topping up at the end of every day (did this last time fuel prices "rocketed", but are cheap in comparison to today's prices), since it will be cheaper than waiting until the next day to put double the amount in etc etc.
All oil from the North sea isnt pumped direct to refineries apart from the Forties pipeline which lands onshore at Cruden bay and head down to Grangemouth refinery. The Brent pipeline terminates at Sullom Voe terminal on the shetland's from where is is offloaded to tanker for delivery to whoever.
Teesside has the Norpipe which come from the Norwegian Ekofisk area. Then there is also a small pipeline from the Beatrice area to Nigg Bay. Lots of offshore installations and FPSO's also export direct to tanker from offshore.
Regards north sea crude its all different and some of it is the best you can get, very light and very easy to refine.
The utilisation of UK refinery capacity was 90% in 2004/5 in 2008 that had dropped to 81% no idea what it is today. Major oil terminal capacity in 2008 was approx 4.5 million m3 of crude oil (approx 6.293 barrels of oil to a m3) that doesnt include all the small scale stuff.
Daily uk oil consumption is at what say 1.8 million barrels (?) but that will be for all uses, fuels, chemicals (ethylene production from naptha feedstock) etc. last time I looked daily uk oil production was around 1.2 millions barrels ish, hence we are a net importer of crude, seem to remember that happened around 2001-2002 I think
That doesnt take into account how much fuel is already in storage. Suppose 50-60 days sounds reasonable sure some knowledgeable folks have determined that.
Teesside has the Norpipe which come from the Norwegian Ekofisk area. Then there is also a small pipeline from the Beatrice area to Nigg Bay. Lots of offshore installations and FPSO's also export direct to tanker from offshore.
Regards north sea crude its all different and some of it is the best you can get, very light and very easy to refine.
The utilisation of UK refinery capacity was 90% in 2004/5 in 2008 that had dropped to 81% no idea what it is today. Major oil terminal capacity in 2008 was approx 4.5 million m3 of crude oil (approx 6.293 barrels of oil to a m3) that doesnt include all the small scale stuff.
Daily uk oil consumption is at what say 1.8 million barrels (?) but that will be for all uses, fuels, chemicals (ethylene production from naptha feedstock) etc. last time I looked daily uk oil production was around 1.2 millions barrels ish, hence we are a net importer of crude, seem to remember that happened around 2001-2002 I think
That doesnt take into account how much fuel is already in storage. Suppose 50-60 days sounds reasonable sure some knowledgeable folks have determined that.
Edited by ryandoc on Thursday 29th March 13:32
Scoobman said:
Just interested in peoples views. Especialy those that work in the industry.
Say hypotheticaly, the supertankers stopped arriving on the shores of the UK tomorrow.
How much of the stuff is there actualy in the major terminals at any one time?
When would it run out? 1 week 2 weeks?
Could the gov ration it?
How much of a just in time operation is this fuel supply business?
The bottleneck is not the depots - another poster suggested 65 days.Say hypotheticaly, the supertankers stopped arriving on the shores of the UK tomorrow.
How much of the stuff is there actualy in the major terminals at any one time?
When would it run out? 1 week 2 weeks?
Could the gov ration it?
How much of a just in time operation is this fuel supply business?
It's on the forecourts. There's around three days' supply there.
Hence the government encouraging us to fill up more than normal now and increase that buffer above three days.
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