Motor Trade - Any Good?
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Sir Bagalot said:
90% of people going to Uni shouldn't really be going. It's simply become fashionable.
This ^^^You do not need to go to University to be a Plumber/Spark/Mechanic/Brickie etc etc
Why the need for this nonsense now?
I talk to my colleagues, very few of who went, and their kids are now attending, and they are paying!!!! What courses are they on?? Media Studies/English Literature with a slight bent towards failing Latin Architecture, or some other b
ks.... All good stuff to come out with maybe.Except it is all b
ks! We need vocational qualifications (if that is what it is called) where we carry out a PROPER apprenticeship, and learn on the job.If you've currently got a job that you like and would be happy and can afford to go full time - stick with the job. Stay with the job until one or more of the following occurs:
You get offered a better job
You get made redundant
You decide 100% that you want to become a (insert job that 100% needs a degree)
Leaving a job and doing a degree for the sake of it is daft - unless you are of independent means and want to do something out of interest.
You get offered a better job
You get made redundant
You decide 100% that you want to become a (insert job that 100% needs a degree)
Leaving a job and doing a degree for the sake of it is daft - unless you are of independent means and want to do something out of interest.
Do you think you would be happy on your income when you are 25/30 when you have a house family?
What career progression is there?
I'd say stick at what you are doing, put some money away now for the next 7 years so when you are 25 you could have say £30k saved up for a good house deposit whereas your mates will be struggling for jobs out of uni in 60k debt - ie you will be £90k better off.
If you do go to Uni - HAVE A PLAN. Don't just go because you think you should. If you have a plan to study economics to do well then work at Credit Suisse and want to move to london do it, but be honest with yourself. If you are going to an average uni with average grades and will get a 2:2 then it is not worth 'that much' and you will just be another one of millions of 'average' graduates. If you want to be a dentist or doctor and will earn £100k plus then you NEED uni, but if not then you don't.
You can also study part time and do a degree part time. Could you do your work part time around uni?
I can't answer as I don't know you but I don't think you are on to a bad thing, but you may never earn 'strong' money.
Good luck
What career progression is there?
I'd say stick at what you are doing, put some money away now for the next 7 years so when you are 25 you could have say £30k saved up for a good house deposit whereas your mates will be struggling for jobs out of uni in 60k debt - ie you will be £90k better off.
If you do go to Uni - HAVE A PLAN. Don't just go because you think you should. If you have a plan to study economics to do well then work at Credit Suisse and want to move to london do it, but be honest with yourself. If you are going to an average uni with average grades and will get a 2:2 then it is not worth 'that much' and you will just be another one of millions of 'average' graduates. If you want to be a dentist or doctor and will earn £100k plus then you NEED uni, but if not then you don't.
You can also study part time and do a degree part time. Could you do your work part time around uni?
I can't answer as I don't know you but I don't think you are on to a bad thing, but you may never earn 'strong' money.
Good luck
Take my advice get out while you can,
Low pay.work loads of hours get treated like crap, expected to do work in a time scale which means it will be 2nd rate, then get slated on here for being a thick no good scammer with no key skills, biggest mistake you will ever make. Go sit in a office playing with computers and earn obscene money.
Low pay.work loads of hours get treated like crap, expected to do work in a time scale which means it will be 2nd rate, then get slated on here for being a thick no good scammer with no key skills, biggest mistake you will ever make. Go sit in a office playing with computers and earn obscene money.
I have a decent degree at one of the better uni's, when I graduated I was skint and desperate for cash, first job I could get was in the motor trade. That was 4yrs ago. I am still in the motor trade and enjoying it more than ever, I have a caterfield in the garage and i ve just bought my first place all off my own back...
loose cannon said:
Take my advice get out while you can,
Low pay.work loads of hours get treated like crap, expected to do work in a time scale which means it will be 2nd rate, then get slated on here for being a thick no good scammer with no key skills, biggest mistake you will ever make. Go sit in a office playing with computers and earn obscene money.
You really have no idea, do you?Low pay.work loads of hours get treated like crap, expected to do work in a time scale which means it will be 2nd rate, then get slated on here for being a thick no good scammer with no key skills, biggest mistake you will ever make. Go sit in a office playing with computers and earn obscene money.
DJC said:
If you enjoy what you're doing and the money is enough, why not stick with it?
If or when you get bored in a few years, go to Uni then. You'll be the cool slightly older guy with a nice car and £££ and you'll get more 18 year old ass than a public loo.
I would go for this. Even if you get fed up with it in a few years time and spend 3 years in uni - when you go out to apply for jobs at least you have some experiance under your belt If or when you get bored in a few years, go to Uni then. You'll be the cool slightly older guy with a nice car and £££ and you'll get more 18 year old ass than a public loo.
loose cannon said:
750turbo said:
You really have no idea, do you?
About what your point is ? Your right I don't have a clue !There is a certain amount of business acumen acquired through this process, that IMO opinion is best achieved by doing the job.
Why do I know this?
I have done it.
Hard work, nose to the whatever, and a genuine love of all things on wheels.
Honesty/Discretion and love of what you are involved in helps.
If you have the option to go to a decent uni near your current place of work I'd go to uni and keep working part time. This will minimise (avoid?) debt, and enable you to get a degree but keep doing a job you enjoy in an industry you like.
The caveat to this is that you need to sufficiently 'engage' with uni to enjoy the experience...by that I'd mean stay in student accom etc so that you meet people/make friends, and are involved in the social side of things. Don't bother if it's a crap uni and/or crap course. And certainly don't make your decision based on driving a MINI!
Whilst people are correct that a uni degree doesnt necessarily make a difference, it's a great experience and you may well find a degree helps you in the future....who knows, but it's a "nice to have"!
Good luck, and enjoy whatever you choose.
The caveat to this is that you need to sufficiently 'engage' with uni to enjoy the experience...by that I'd mean stay in student accom etc so that you meet people/make friends, and are involved in the social side of things. Don't bother if it's a crap uni and/or crap course. And certainly don't make your decision based on driving a MINI!
Whilst people are correct that a uni degree doesnt necessarily make a difference, it's a great experience and you may well find a degree helps you in the future....who knows, but it's a "nice to have"!
Good luck, and enjoy whatever you choose.
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Thursday 29th March 21:27
Massivewettie said:
I'd recommend uni regardless of job prospects or not. Best 3 years of my life.
If you've got decent job experience (which you have), it should be relatively straightforward getting a job afterwards.
I finished uni with only 3 months job experience and did a sh*tty job for a year,went travelling and am now in a pretty decent job on £22k
You've got 40 years or so of working life ahead of you, go and enjoy yourself for 3 years first!
Best three years of you life because you enjoyed learning? Or best three years of your life because you got pissed all the time and met tons of girls?If you've got decent job experience (which you have), it should be relatively straightforward getting a job afterwards.
I finished uni with only 3 months job experience and did a sh*tty job for a year,went travelling and am now in a pretty decent job on £22k
You've got 40 years or so of working life ahead of you, go and enjoy yourself for 3 years first!
I had a great time at uni, but I'd say the best years of my life have been doing jobs I love, while still doing all the stuff I used to do at uni in my time off.
Also if you pick the right job you still meet tons of girls and can sleep in until 2pm every day.
Economics is a great discipline to study. It is an excellent way to learn that problem solving is not about finding a right answer but finding an answer that works. I studied economics and ended up implementing business software systems for many years.
Good luck with whatever you decide on.
Good luck with whatever you decide on.
I started my career straight from school through a jaguar apprenticeship then moved to landrover and dabbled with Subaru as a sub franchise, I currently work as a head technician for the local Alfa dealer, and I want out of the trade after 9 years, too much politics and un certiancy nowa days
ReaperCushions said:
mikeveal said:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/executive...
If you have a job at 19 that meets the dictionary definition of executive (or even assitant exec), then I'd say you don't need university.
If however you see the title executive as one that is bandied about by people desperately trying to raise their self import, you find it slightly pathetic and you aspire to do a little more with your life then maybe University is a good idea.
But please, choose a course with some practical use. Studying medieval Flemish literature is unlikely to lead to gainful employment in that field.
Bit harsh, the word executive is pretty common place now for the bottom rung on the ladder in a lot of jobs, especially sales.If you have a job at 19 that meets the dictionary definition of executive (or even assitant exec), then I'd say you don't need university.
If however you see the title executive as one that is bandied about by people desperately trying to raise their self import, you find it slightly pathetic and you aspire to do a little more with your life then maybe University is a good idea.
But please, choose a course with some practical use. Studying medieval Flemish literature is unlikely to lead to gainful employment in that field.
The practise is illegal in medecine, whilst the outcome may be less serious, are the morals any different elsewhere?
Thanks for all the replies, some differing opinions but a lot of options I hadn't even considered!
Having spent the last year or so totally unsure of what to do, my manager came and spoke with me on Saturday about a uni course in automotive management that the company could put me through. Gotta prove my worth, so some bum-licking may be needed, but if this comes through, I'll be seriously over the moon! Would involve a shift to BMW as well, so a much nicer company car...
Thanks PH'ers!
Having spent the last year or so totally unsure of what to do, my manager came and spoke with me on Saturday about a uni course in automotive management that the company could put me through. Gotta prove my worth, so some bum-licking may be needed, but if this comes through, I'll be seriously over the moon! Would involve a shift to BMW as well, so a much nicer company car...
Thanks PH'ers!
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