RE: SOTW: Porsche 924
Discussion
green944 said:
Quite like those white wheels! Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
White wheels are a nightmare. My 924T came with white painted wheels, if you clean them spotless they are white for at least 5km before the break dust has covered them
Nowdays its on black wheels for street tyres and black matte wheels for track. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, and look way better.
Nowdays its on black wheels for street tyres and black matte wheels for track. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, and look way better.
Gruber said:
Quite like those white wheels!
Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
Colour coded wheels always look good on a 924,and white wheels look especially good on a red or white car Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
http://prsche924.freeforums.org/index.php
White wheels get no dirtier than any others,both of the cars I have posted have had the white wheels for many months and still look as good as the day they were painted.Mat black wheels look really bad after a few weeks
http://prsche924.freeforums.org/index.php
http://prsche924.freeforums.org/index.php
CedricN said:
To few pics here, I add a pic from a friend of mine blasting through the autox track with his ´76 with a tiny bit of oppo.
Regarding weight distribution that we discussed, I checked through all test articles i could find in "Porsche 924 Gold portfolio", all of them points for the 924 as being rear biased 48-52, the turbo from 50-50 to 52F48R(about 30kg more engine). But it will always depend on suspension type (the 76-77 had simpler rear suspension), gearbox (the audi and porsche boxes are completely different in layout and weight), AC or not, EGR+air pump+ lambda control +CAT+US bumpers also shifts weight.
I agree, there's obviously a certain 'spec' that will produce the 50/50 balance - just find it interesting that Porsche made much of this in their ads to almost suggest that it was markedly different to other such cars of that time.Regarding weight distribution that we discussed, I checked through all test articles i could find in "Porsche 924 Gold portfolio", all of them points for the 924 as being rear biased 48-52, the turbo from 50-50 to 52F48R(about 30kg more engine). But it will always depend on suspension type (the 76-77 had simpler rear suspension), gearbox (the audi and porsche boxes are completely different in layout and weight), AC or not, EGR+air pump+ lambda control +CAT+US bumpers also shifts weight.
Fact is a lot of front-engined sporty rwd stuff gravitates to the 50:50 mark for obvious reasons and handling benefits, like the early RX7, 280ZX, 260Z, Alfetta GTV. In fact even stuff like the 4 cylinder BMW E30 M3 and sporty 4/5-door 4-cylinder Sierras come very close to the magic 50/50 set-up ( both at 51F:49R )
In fact from the pic above even the 3 litre Capri with the heavy cast-iron Essex V6 manages a 53F:47R set-up compared to the 924 example above at 51F:49R that matches the Datsun 280ZX
Anyway, as you say, makes little difference to the enjoyment of these cars at this price point. Models like the Turbo are certainly respectably quick. Good to see them being kept going and nice pic!
Gruber said:
Quite like those white wheels!
Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
Here you go Gruber, apologies for not being perfect, but it should give you an idea. Best thread I've ever read BTW, prompting finally registering...
Or... LOL!!!
Edited by AndyLeysh on Friday 6th April 00:07
s m said:
AndyLeysh said:
Don't like the PS with big wheels that muchIncidentally, regarding the ongoing weight distribution conversation, are these figures with or without a full tank as surely this will make a considerable difference?
Edited by AndyLeysh on Friday 6th April 02:00
AndyLeysh said:
Here you go Gruber, apologies for not being perfect, but it should give you an idea. Best thread I've ever read BTW, prompting finally registering...
Or... LOL!!!
Edited by AndyLeysh on Friday 6th April 00:07
And secondly: that's ace - thank you very much indeed! I'm not convinced that painting them white is the way to go, but thanks for going to the trouble. Much appreciated.
AndyLeysh said:
Ha ha, I know, it looks daft. Did it for a laugh...
Incidentally, regarding the ongoing weight distribution conversation, are these figures with or without a full tank as surely this will make a considerable difference?
I suppose we get used to seeing stuff like that on period wheels Incidentally, regarding the ongoing weight distribution conversation, are these figures with or without a full tank as surely this will make a considerable difference?
Edited by AndyLeysh on Friday 6th April 02:00
As to the weight distribution, the mags like "Autocar" and "Motor" usually used to weigh the cars with a half tank or small fuel load and give a kerb weight and then also give a tested weight with timing gear and two testers.
Having said that, I think it was their procedure for all cars so you might say stuff like the old RX7 or 280ZX with the same weight distribution could have the same applied.
I'm sure there were examples tested with 49/51 weight distribution but many also come in at 52/48, same as an old BM 3-series or rwd Ford saloon or 260Z.
As said already, it's not a be-all or end-all with regards to handling but it was just interesting how Porsche highlighted it with their advertising.
Gruber said:
AndyLeysh said:
Here you go Gruber, apologies for not being perfect, but it should give you an idea. Best thread I've ever read BTW, prompting finally registering...
Or... LOL!!!
Edited by AndyLeysh on Friday 6th April 00:07
And secondly: that's ace - thank you very much indeed! I'm not convinced that painting them white is the way to go, but thanks for going to the trouble. Much appreciated.
Must agree with you though on the white wheels, it's only on rare occasions they seem to work.
If it were me, I'd be tempted to go black and silver and just to get some much needed photoshop practice in, here's your car with some period same size minilites...
Gruber said:
green944 said:
Quite like those white wheels! Does anyone have the photoshop skills to put them on my car?
Maybe white wheels with white "Porsche" decal down the side... hmmmm...
AndyLeysh said:
Thanks for the welcome Gruber, after 16 years in Cape Town, this site is proving to be invaluable in my reintroduction into the UK car world!!!
Must agree with you though on the white wheels, it's only on rare occasions they seem to work.
If it were me, I'd be tempted to go black and silver and just to get some much needed photoshop practice in, here's your car with some period same size minilites...
Good call! I like that a lot.Must agree with you though on the white wheels, it's only on rare occasions they seem to work.
If it were me, I'd be tempted to go black and silver and just to get some much needed photoshop practice in, here's your car with some period same size minilites...
From Cape Town to Wales!? That's a big change. Hope you're settling in.
Thanks again for the photoshopping
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