Road Tax. Why is a 1.8 Elise £260 for 12 months and a......

Road Tax. Why is a 1.8 Elise £260 for 12 months and a......

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bebee

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4,679 posts

225 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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...........TVR Griff 5ltr £215?

Me no understando wobble

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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The TVR is in the old "anything goes" category.

The Elise is in the CO2 based newer categories.smile

Disgusted

853 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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The real reason is the system was designed by s.

bebee

Original Poster:

4,679 posts

225 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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So if I fit an old Honda engine in the Elise, will that be cheaper to tax?

Vladimir

6,917 posts

158 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Our 122bhp Defender was £460 a year. Which it partly why its now sold.

Jag-D

19,633 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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My friend couldn't justify paying £440 per annum for his 2.5 Omega so traded it in for a 99 Jag XKR Convertible hehe

E30M3SE

8,467 posts

196 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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iva cosworth said:
The TVR is in the old "anything goes" category.

The Elise is in the CO2 based newer categories.smile
Yes, the TVR will be registered pre 1st March 2001.

hardcorehobbit

1,103 posts

195 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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bebee said:
So if I fit an old Honda engine in the Elise, will that be cheaper to tax?
No, it'll be taxed on what it had originally IIRC.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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bebee said:
So if I fit an old Honda engine in the Elise, will that be cheaper to tax?
No you could fit any engine and the emissions band stays the same.

Edited by Engineer1 on Saturday 31st March 19:12

Gixer

4,463 posts

248 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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System is a joke a VW Golf blue motion is something like £30 ffs. My motor cycles are a lot more than that. The whole idea was that it paid for the roads, now it's just used as a cash cow for anything other than the roads.

E38Ross

35,089 posts

212 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Gixer said:
System is a joke a VW Golf blue motion is something like £30 ffs. My motor cycles are a lot more than that. The whole idea was that it paid for the roads, now it's just used as a cash cow for anything other than the roads.
yes

it's ridiculous. it's almost as if they think C02 is the gas of the devil. i'm sure trees disagree hehe

12gauge

1,274 posts

174 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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The dumbest bit is as much energy is consumed in producing a car as is used in its entire usable life, on average. It makes sense to keep a car on the road as long as possible, rather than tax it off the road after a few years.

If they wanted to tax cars, they should put on an initial one off tax when the car is sold from new, to discourage demand for those polluting cars in the first place, and have no annual taxes thereafter.

Of course, i wouldnt tax either, being a pistonhead.

rix

2,782 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Jag-D said:
My friend couldn't justify paying £440 per annum for his 2.5 Omega so traded it in for a 99 Jag XKR Convertible hehe
they did an Omega past 2006??

Bitzer

4,239 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Jag-D said:
My friend couldn't justify paying £440 per annum for his 2.5 Omega so traded it in for a 99 Jag XKR Convertible hehe
£440 for an Omega?

As the £400+ VED came in after March 2006 registrations, then your mate would be paying £260 for a year's VED.

Negative Creep

24,985 posts

227 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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E38Ross said:
Gixer said:
System is a joke a VW Golf blue motion is something like £30 ffs. My motor cycles are a lot more than that. The whole idea was that it paid for the roads, now it's just used as a cash cow for anything other than the roads.
yes

it's ridiculous. it's almost as if they think C02 is the gas of the devil. i'm sure trees disagree hehe
Since the current bands encourage "environmentally friendly" cars, the government must be losing quite a bit of potential revenue. I wonder how long it will be before the bands change.........?

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Since the current bands encourage "environmentally friendly" cars, the government must be losing quite a bit of potential revenue. I wonder how long it will be before the bands change.........?
Unfortunately with governments needing to generate tax income it is more likely that they will have to raise the tax on those cars that already pay more rather than manage to penalise those more economical vehicles.

Ultimately, a high band CO2 car which does 1000 miles a year pollutes a lot less than a Prius doing 20k per year so should be paying less, but that logic didn't occur to the people who worked out the tax bands.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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This is why the entire fleet on our drive is now pre-2001 biggrin

STW2010

5,735 posts

162 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Engineer1 said:
bebee said:
So if I fit an old Honda engine in the Elise, will that be cheaper to tax?
No you could fit any engine and the emissions band stays the same.

Edited by Engineer1 on Saturday 31st March 19:12
So you could shoe horn a V8 in to a Prius and not pay tax? Awesome

mrmarcus

649 posts

179 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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"bebee said:
So if I fit an old Honda engine in the Elise, will that be cheaper to tax?
No, it'll be taxed on what it had originally IIRC."


Does that work in reverse..... Get a blue motion 30quid a year car rip the engine out drop a 5 litre v8 in it and still only pay 30 quid a year tax??

^^^^^ edit: damn beaten to it by 6 minutes....

Edited by mrmarcus on Saturday 31st March 20:28

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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swerni said:
My Camaro's about £250.

That's 6.2L wink
Grey import / doesn't have EU type approval?


I pay £460 to do 2-3000 miles per year in my weekend car. frown

I preferred the good old days when all cars were taxed at the same rate, we all use the roads after all!