"Be patient, I'm lowered"
Discussion
jay85 said:
I see more and more of this recently. I dont mind cars that are a bit low. I think it makes a car look better, gives it a better stance but some of these VW "Enthusiasts" are a bit ridiculous.
They buy any VW, buy some cheap ebay coilovers, lower the car until its undriveable and then lower some more. Then plaster the car in stickers and drive around at no faster than 20mph as they might smash the sump off on a manhole cover.
At least they are not driving around at 80MPH like mad people,They buy any VW, buy some cheap ebay coilovers, lower the car until its undriveable and then lower some more. Then plaster the car in stickers and drive around at no faster than 20mph as they might smash the sump off on a manhole cover.
and flying over speed bumps.
Frik said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
i have lowered cars to improve handling but not to the point where it ruins the car like the current fashion or this rediclious fad of stretching tyres, all my mods where to go faster
How did lowering your car improve its handling and by how much?however i never did it to impress others, but the idea of trashing a cars setup with clown suspension / tyres just so a bunch of dubbers can jerk each other off whilst looking at it is hysterical, but then so was the whole max power barry boy scene, even when i was of the age to do it
why put 20 grand into a 318 bmw trying to make it go fast when you can just buy an M3
and im not knocking all modders, there are some extremely well modified cars here with serious performance, but then there not dragging on the ground
The intention of speed bumps is to slow one down, is it not?
Everyone in Lelant going to the golf course are very sedate, and we each trickle over the bumps, with the obligatory wave to those in the opposite direction! However in my road, all of them behind me, tooting as I carefully step over each one, they are all
s.
Especially when the overtake me - when the school kids are walking home!
Neanderthaling Thundercocks.
Everyone in Lelant going to the golf course are very sedate, and we each trickle over the bumps, with the obligatory wave to those in the opposite direction! However in my road, all of them behind me, tooting as I carefully step over each one, they are all
s. Especially when the overtake me - when the school kids are walking home!
Neanderthal
ing Thundercocks.Leptons said:
Tyre stretching looks great when done properly.
I am afraid that is a personal choice, there is no evidence to actually back up that statement. As for lowering your car to the point that you can no longer drive it "normally" or without hindering other road user, all I can say is this. There must be a point at which the inconvenience that it causes the driver and other road user far at weights the somewhat questionable benefit it gives. I give you the following example as proof.
During the summer of last year I was stuck in a stop start queue of traffic down a smallish road that has the pill box style speed bumps, at the front of the queue was an E30 style BMW lowered to the point the he was unable to simply straddle the bumps as everyone else was doing, this meant he need to very slowly line up with two, one from either side of the road, which meant he needed to stop at each (there is pretty much one every 10 yards) set of speed bumps, wait till the opposite side of the road was clear and then at pretty much walking pass go over both. This lead to a rather long and very irate queue of other motorists all stuck behind him, standing on their horns whenever he had to stop and wait. There is no way in hell that any part of that process provided a level of enjoyment for the driver.
I think people are failing to draw the distinction here.
There are low and lowered cars which have to slow down for speed bumps. My Celica falls in that bracket. Only lowered 25mm on TRD springs but go over a speedbump with too much gusto and you can kiss goodbye to the transfer case, so yes, I slow down.
Then there are those scene tts who lower their car to the point a severely trucked road with depressions where the wheels run present a problem. These are the type who will have a sticker as mentioned by the OP, the type who respond with rhetoric about "haters" whenever someone points out they've largely made their car un-useable. They also think its the epitome of cool to be able to drop your air suspension on the motorway and shower sparks everywhere as you drag your subframe along the tarmac.
I dont object to people modifying their cars but the balljoint shaggery such mods introduce and ridiculous camber coupled with over stretched tyres is just downright dangerous. The only plus point is their daft mods preclude them from attaining very much in the way of speed.
There are low and lowered cars which have to slow down for speed bumps. My Celica falls in that bracket. Only lowered 25mm on TRD springs but go over a speedbump with too much gusto and you can kiss goodbye to the transfer case, so yes, I slow down.
Then there are those scene t
ts who lower their car to the point a severely trucked road with depressions where the wheels run present a problem. These are the type who will have a sticker as mentioned by the OP, the type who respond with rhetoric about "haters" whenever someone points out they've largely made their car un-useable. They also think its the epitome of cool to be able to drop your air suspension on the motorway and shower sparks everywhere as you drag your subframe along the tarmac.I dont object to people modifying their cars but the balljoint shaggery such mods introduce and ridiculous camber coupled with over stretched tyres is just downright dangerous. The only plus point is their daft mods preclude them from attaining very much in the way of speed.
Leptons said:
To say it's unsafe shows a lack of understanding IMO.
Does it? All tyres have dedicated operating parameters. Low profile tyres (in particular) are designed in such a way that stretching them puts a huge amount of stress on the very area that is needed to flex and support the vehicle. Not good.
Appreciably, most of these guys end up cruising around as opposed to actually driving their car, but the stresses still act upon the tyre.
GroundEffect said:
Dampers are designed to work over speedbumps. If you hit them at reasonable speed, you get a smaller response from the car.
But you still dig a big gouge into the tarmac, and out of the bottom of your valance / spoiler / under tray / chassis rails when you land. Round here anyway. 
Riff Raff said:
GroundEffect said:
Dampers are designed to work over speedbumps. If you hit them at reasonable speed, you get a smaller response from the car.
But you still dig a big gouge into the tarmac, and out of the bottom of your valance / spoiler / under tray / chassis rails when you land. Round here anyway. Frances The Mute said:
Leptons said:
To say it's unsafe shows a lack of understanding IMO.
Does it? All tyres have dedicated operating parameters. Low profile tyres (in particular) are designed in such a way that stretching them puts a huge amount of stress on the very area that is needed to flex and support the vehicle. Not good.
Appreciably, most of these guys end up cruising around as opposed to actually driving their car, but the stresses still act upon the tyre.
paranoid airbag said:
Am I interpreting this right, that it's got a sticker warning people that it's slow because it's been modified in a way that's supposed to improve performance, and thus can't handle potholes/speed bumps anymore? Is this a massive sense of irony deficiency? Or a deliberate joke? I'm confused...
Is this a joke, or are you really that thick?I've played with suspensions in many ways, in order to make my car go around corners very quickly. The sort of thing you'd do to a hillclimb car. It is also a pain over speedbumps.
However, I did it as a mod for going very fast. Not looking kool. If I want something to go over speedbumps quickly, I'll take the jeep, which is a consequence of being modified for extreme off road is fine over speedbumps.
I have utter contempt for people doing stupid things to their geometry/ride height for looks.
It does not tend to lend itself to safety.
Dubbers = Idiot Sheep at best, dangerous deathtraps at worst.
I miss people "kevving" up their cars, the country is less rich for it. However, they were following some motorsport ideals, rather than this idiotic "look".
Whatever happened to young people reading a Vizard book and trying to get 100hp out of 1000cc?
It's a bloody shame.
I bloody well hate transporter vans with their wker wheels and all the usual sheep like st. Jeez.
However, I did it as a mod for going very fast. Not looking kool. If I want something to go over speedbumps quickly, I'll take the jeep, which is a consequence of being modified for extreme off road is fine over speedbumps.
I have utter contempt for people doing stupid things to their geometry/ride height for looks.
It does not tend to lend itself to safety.
Dubbers = Idiot Sheep at best, dangerous deathtraps at worst.
I miss people "kevving" up their cars, the country is less rich for it. However, they were following some motorsport ideals, rather than this idiotic "look".
Whatever happened to young people reading a Vizard book and trying to get 100hp out of 1000cc?
It's a bloody shame.
I bloody well hate transporter vans with their w
ker wheels and all the usual sheep like st. Jeez. IF the car is lowered, he/she is probably fed up with people "pushing" him/her to go faster over speed bumps...
I had my Elise lowered to 60 F/70 R, while it was great for the handling, it forced me to slow down to nearly standstill and cross any speed bump as sideways as possible, not to ruin the C/F front splitter (motorsport clam). Quite often to the disliking of the cars behind me...
I had my Elise lowered to 60 F/70 R, while it was great for the handling, it forced me to slow down to nearly standstill and cross any speed bump as sideways as possible, not to ruin the C/F front splitter (motorsport clam). Quite often to the disliking of the cars behind me...
Dave Hedgehog said:
yonex said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
all part of being dropped on the head as a baby and going to special needs school
Of course you never modified any car and always had peerless taste? 
It's only hurting their cars and I would rather have a generation of 'special needs' drivers who at least have a go at something and learn what does and doesn't work.
In actual fact, aren't you the same guy branded as a "cretin" and a "troll" by the vast majority of posters on the Evo forum?
Edited by Dave200 on Monday 2nd April 16:45
cuprabob said:
I think it's intended for the majority who don't slow down for speed bumps and get frustrated when others that have some mechanical sympathy do.
Agree with this. I always go really slow over speed bumps because of mechanical sympathy. Gives me an excuse to floor it in-between bumps too! 
Leptons said:
Frances The Mute said:
Leptons said:
To say it's unsafe shows a lack of understanding IMO.
Does it? All tyres have dedicated operating parameters. Low profile tyres (in particular) are designed in such a way that stretching them puts a huge amount of stress on the very area that is needed to flex and support the vehicle. Not good.
Appreciably, most of these guys end up cruising around as opposed to actually driving their car, but the stresses still act upon the tyre.
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