Am I being pedantic?
Discussion
HBFS said:
.. the outer rubber still has a hole in it.
Has the hole been plugged?I wouldn't be very happy that it didn't say the tyre was repaired. Apart from anything else, it's not described as reconditioned in the listing, as the seller said it was.
Would you have still bought it if you'd known it was repaired?
but those tittles sound like great fun, I do like a nice pair of tittles!Yes, the tyre was not a described.
And Yes, you are an idiot for expecting a second hand tyre off ebay to be anything else but ropey.
And Yes, you are an idiot for expecting a supplier of said ropey tyre to pay postage and/or refund.
Yes, you feel cheated, cheap, and ripped off.
Learn from experience.
And Yes, you are an idiot for expecting a second hand tyre off ebay to be anything else but ropey.
And Yes, you are an idiot for expecting a supplier of said ropey tyre to pay postage and/or refund.
Yes, you feel cheated, cheap, and ripped off.
Learn from experience.
carmonk said:
People buy 2nd had tyres? I'd no idea. I swap my 205/45s when tread reaches 50% and just chuck them out. They're otherwise perfect condition too, certainly not covered in s
t with holes in them. Could've made a fortune over the years.
I gather it's quite common to buy them to put on lease cars if they need tyres just before they go back.t with holes in them. Could've made a fortune over the years.It looks like a perfectly good repair. All someones done is stretch the plug before the cut it so it sits further back in the whole. It's central, it's been done with a proper repair plug, what more do you want for £20, a brand new ling long to go with it? It says in the item description it's used. It is still legal for road use.
Uniroyal are hardly a premium brand either, so I don't know where you go to make you think they're worth £145, but I wouldn't go there.
Uniroyal are hardly a premium brand either, so I don't know where you go to make you think they're worth £145, but I wouldn't go there.
Two questions to answer in this thread IMHO.
1) The tyre itself and the ebay listing. I would expect a puncture repair, especially one as noticeable as this (i.e. a visible hole in the outer tread) to be stated in the listing.
The tyre's original structure has been compromised, and hence the item has had subsequent third party attention in order to make it serviceable again. However, we have no idea if it is even safe, let alone serviceable.
As a comparison, it's like buying another safety critical part, let's say a suspension arm or brake part, and then finding out once it's been delivered that it's had damage and been welded up.
It might well be ok in some people's opinion, but I would expect to be told about it in the original listing. Hence, I side with the OP on this one - I would be just as disappointed and expect the seller to re-imburse me.
2) This is the bit where I will now berate the OP
mate, what ARE you thinking? Second hand safety critical parts from someone on the internet you don't know and can have no idea of the history of the item?
Did you even ask the seller for the date of manufacture from the sidewall of the tyre? And if you don't know what I'm talking about, then educate yourself with this link please
It's generally agreed that tyres over six years old might be better gracing the inside of a bin, rather than being trusted with your / your family's lives and the safety of other road users.
As a PH'er, I am 'disappoint' in you....you would be better off with some budget new tyres instead of trusting the internets.
Now go and write out 100 times 'I must not buy crap off ebay' to be on my desk by the end of today please.
1) The tyre itself and the ebay listing. I would expect a puncture repair, especially one as noticeable as this (i.e. a visible hole in the outer tread) to be stated in the listing.
The tyre's original structure has been compromised, and hence the item has had subsequent third party attention in order to make it serviceable again. However, we have no idea if it is even safe, let alone serviceable.
As a comparison, it's like buying another safety critical part, let's say a suspension arm or brake part, and then finding out once it's been delivered that it's had damage and been welded up.
It might well be ok in some people's opinion, but I would expect to be told about it in the original listing. Hence, I side with the OP on this one - I would be just as disappointed and expect the seller to re-imburse me.
2) This is the bit where I will now berate the OP
mate, what ARE you thinking? Second hand safety critical parts from someone on the internet you don't know and can have no idea of the history of the item?Did you even ask the seller for the date of manufacture from the sidewall of the tyre? And if you don't know what I'm talking about, then educate yourself with this link please
It's generally agreed that tyres over six years old might be better gracing the inside of a bin, rather than being trusted with your / your family's lives and the safety of other road users.
As a PH'er, I am 'disappoint' in you....you would be better off with some budget new tyres instead of trusting the internets.
Now go and write out 100 times 'I must not buy crap off ebay' to be on my desk by the end of today please.
mrmr96 said:
VolvoT5 said:
Order a cheap second hand tyre and you can't be sure what you will get. Same as going to one of these back street places that offer part-worns.
Under the condition section it states:
If you are fussy I can understand why it bothers you - but the answer is buy NEW instead. Don't buy cheap second hand and expect the same product and service.
^ This.Under the condition section it states:
ebay said:
Used: A tyre that has been previously used, but remains in good working condition with sufficient tread remaining to comply with the seller’s local legal requirements for on-road use (if applicable)
If the tyre is in good working order and legal tread I think you can't complain too much. What do you want the seller to do, write a 1000 essay on the condition of each block of tread in the tyre? If you are fussy I can understand why it bothers you - but the answer is buy NEW instead. Don't buy cheap second hand and expect the same product and service.
HBFS said:
The repair doesn't appear to be compliant with the British standard to me and therefore not roadworthy as there is no plug or filling conponent , just a hole.
What do the PH'ers think?
If you are as unhappy as you seem to be, send the tyre back as the seller suggested, or keep it and chalk it up as a £40 lesson in not taking someone else's word on the condition of a used (or even new) item being sold on Ebay.
Playing the legal angle in the hopes of strengthening your position with Ebay/Paypal/Seller is a bit much on a used item of that value. Surely your time, stress level and peace of mind is worth much more than the £40 in question.
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