RE: PH Carpool: Range Rover Evoque SD4

[andyeds1234]

Agoogy said:

there never was a need.... didn't have stick on blinds when I was a kid... plus full on blinding sun in UK is probably around 20% of the time.... never had an animal complain about blinding light either..personal preference accepted of course, but for me they're a nonsensical ugly addition.

For me its less about the glare and more about keeping the cabin from getting hot.
It also hides the contents of your boot from prying eyes.

However, if you dont mind your kids/pets roasting in the back of the car and dont have anything worth nicking, it probably is nonsensical.

[Agoogy]

andyeds1234 said:

For me its less about the glare and more about keeping the cabin from getting hot.
It also hides the contents of your boot from prying eyes.

However, if you dont mind your kids/pets roasting in the back of the car and dont have anything worth nicking, it probably is nonsensical.

open the window prevents overheating...(plus dogs love that!)...or turn air con up a smidge...
Take better care of your valuables is too easy...totally ruining the look of a car/SUV by making it look like a van just to avoid simple to fix/rare happenings?? I'm clearly old.

[excel monkey]

Agoogy said:

there never was a need.... didn't have stick on blinds when I was a kid...

"Didn't have 'em when I was a kid - never did me no harm." Great argument. Taking your argument further, why don't we all drive brown Morris Marinas with no rear seatbelts, no aircon and no ABS?

So long as it's done sensibly, privacy glass makes a lot of sense on 4x4s and people carriers - why the hate for it?

[Agoogy]

excel monkey said:

Agoogy said:

there never was a need.... didn't have stick on blinds when I was a kid...

"Didn't have 'em when I was a kid - never did me no harm." Great argument. Taking your argument further, why don't we all drive brown Morris Marinas with no rear seatbelts, no aircon and no ABS?

So long as it's done sensibly, privacy glass makes a lot of sense on 4x4s and people carriers - why the hate for it?

Even done sensibly it ruins the look, that's why the 'hate' (not that it is hate...mroe an intense dislike on a superficial level)...why the sarcasm?
Seatbelts and ABS are clear (non aesthetic affecting) life savers
Aircon...ermm good question, not an essential...
Brown Morris Marinas - well if we ALL drove them the roads would be very boring, slightly communist and aesthetically quite offensive, although British manufacturing/finance and employment would benefit...the only thing worse would be if we all drove brown Morris Marinas with blacked out rear windows. IMO

[Trommel]

excel monkey said:

why the hate for it?

Because it looks rubbish and is usually done by people who are a bit flash.

[Bladedancer]

300bhp/ton said:

Bladedancer said:

Soon-to-be the most hated car in UK.
Fashion item for all daddy's little princesses and city girls who car barely park and drive a mini, let alone anything bigger than that.

Reminds me of iPhone. Pure fashion gadget, merit or usability irrelevant.

What a grumpy old sod you are.

Grumpy? Do you even know what the word means?

Oh dear, I guess I should feel bad about being sick and tired of being run off the road by SUVs that can't stick to their own bloody lane, can't go around a corner without cutting it and need 2 spaces to park.

[excel monkey]

Trommel said:

Because it looks rubbish and is usually done by people who are a bit flash.

If there were no "people who are a bit flash", there would be no customers for a lot of the cars discussed on this website.

[Bladedancer]

SWoll said:

Rubbish, how can you accuse something of being a "pure fashion" object and then say merit and usability are irrelevant?

Stupid statement IMO.

Looks like you have trouble with understanding what you're reading.

Ok, once more, Pure fashion items MEANS that usability and merit are irrelevant. It just has to be fashionable. It might be the most useless thing in the world, but it won't matter because it's fashionable.

[JMF894]

There is absolutely no need for permanent tinting of windows or nasty stick on blinds.

You can get tailor made, black netted blinds that clip in and can be removed in seconds.

They fit perfectly to the vehicle they are made for so look like a quality item.

You can use them when the kids want to watch a DVD on a long journey on holiday etc and take them out during any other occasion if you so wish.

I have them on my vRS and i think they are a good compromise.

Cost £100 for two rear side blinds and two for the tailgate window.

They don't get scratched like tinted window film either which can cost around £400 iirc

Jimbo

[Agoogy]

Don't get me started on DVD players for kids on long journeys !! hahaha
sorry...off topic here....

Evoque. I like it, To expensive, but like Apple if people are willing to spend out on the brand and percieved image, then they are duty bound to maximise profit....as a car, it seems to cover ALOT of bases... jack of all trades master of none kind of car...

[DonkeyApple]

J4CKO said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

i dont think i am brave enough to have "for cock" as a number plate even if my surname was cox

You get yours signwritten down the side then ?

[DonkeyApple]

Trommel said:

excel monkey said:

why the hate for it?

Because it looks rubbish and is usually done by people who are a bit flash.

What if you have frighteningly ugly children?

[Trommel]

Ugly kids glass is of course another handy use for them.

[andyeds1234]

JMF894 said:

There is absolutely no need for permanent tinting of windows or nasty stick on blinds.

You can get tailor made, black netted blinds that clip in and can be removed in seconds.

They fit perfectly to the vehicle they are made for so look like a quality item.

You can use them when the kids want to watch a DVD on a long journey on holiday etc and take them out during any other occasion if you so wish.

I have them on my vRS and i think they are a good compromise.

Cost £100 for two rear side blinds and two for the tailgate window.

They don't get scratched like tinted window film either which can cost around £400 iirc

Jimbo

I'm not a fan of net curtains anywhere, never mind my car.

[Streetrod]

Agoogy said:

jack of all trades master of none kind of car...

Does that not cover 95% of all cars on the road at the moment?

To those slagging the car off would they rather it not have been built, and if so what in their infinite wisdom should LR have built instead? I am really looking forward to a decent answer to this

[JMF894]

andyeds1234 said:

I'm not a fan of net curtains anywhere, never mind my car.

Good one, very good.

But they're not net curtains i can assure you.

[J-P]

Ftumpch said:

Ugh. I take the very fact that this car has been productionised at all to be nothing less than a sign that a) the world has gone mad, b) economic development is long past reaching its zenith and is hurtling inexorably downhill, and c) anyone who buys one has clearly lost touch with reality.

I love cars just as much as Mr Cox and most other PH readers, but I would seriously suggest that here we have an example of an utterly pointless product which people could only talk themselves into buying if they existed inside a moral vacuum and had far more money than they know what to do with. If you must have an off-road-capable car then please, for the good of humanity, get yourself a 10-year-old Subaru Forester instead, and donate the difference to helping out the disadvantaged, or towards research into energy efficiency. Buy and Evoque by contrast, and you are committing an anti-social act of ethical, environmental, economic, and aesthetic negligence and vandalism. Tell me I'm wrong!!

I don't believe that you can love cars as much as you claim. Your moral vacuum argument applies far more to super cars than the Evoque and indeed could be applied to any car at any age. Why not go one step further and say don't have a car at all, use public transport and give the money you would have used on a car to the less fortunate?

I think that it would be nice if people did things like this but it's naive, unrealistic and totally against the grain of a true petrolhead. I can't imagine being without a car or driving and I work to provide me with this pleasure. Yes I'm fortunate to live in the West where this is a reality for many but I do work for it. It's a genuine pleasure for me which I'm loathe to relinquish no matter how noble the cause. I think any petrolhead would have a similar view to mine!

[UK952]

Dimski said:

I don't think I'd choose one either, but I have wondered about them... I currently do a lot of miles towing, and my XF is great. It cruises, even with the trailer beautifully on the motorways. However, at a couple of places I go regularly, I have got stuck on grassy/soft ground (more than once, I'm ashamed to say). The idea of a vehicle like the Evoque that can do an 600 mile weekend (I'm planning that this weekend) in more comfort on the road than a FL2, drive better when not towing, and give me a bit more ability than the XF to avoid getting stuck appeals a lot.

If I can consider it on these grounds, then surely it is a bit much to say it is nothing but a fashion status car. (Not directed at you, you understand, more at those who write it off on those grounds) Anyway, even if it is, I'm glad that these people are choosing a car with substance behind the style, and contributing to British manufacture with their choice. Huzzah for the the Evoque!

OT but
A6 Quattro
But it depends what you are towing as there is a 2 tonne limit. I regularly do 600 miles in a day, and often tow right up to the weight limit. Tyres are limiting factor on soft ground with a heavy trailer but haven't got completely stuck - did have to un hitch and use a rope to pull the trailer forward once - trailer was probably nearer 3 tonnes on that occasion as only crossing an airfield at low speed. Also been to the alps in it (on summer tyres) and over to Stuttgart, it swallows miles. Best works van I have owned.

[UK952]

Dimski said:

I don't think I'd choose one either, but I have wondered about them... I currently do a lot of miles towing, and my XF is great. It cruises, even with the trailer beautifully on the motorways. However, at a couple of places I go regularly, I have got stuck on grassy/soft ground (more than once, I'm ashamed to say). The idea of a vehicle like the Evoque that can do an 600 mile weekend (I'm planning that this weekend) in more comfort on the road than a FL2, drive better when not towing, and give me a bit more ability than the XF to avoid getting stuck appeals a lot.

If I can consider it on these grounds, then surely it is a bit much to say it is nothing but a fashion status car. (Not directed at you, you understand, more at those who write it off on those grounds) Anyway, even if it is, I'm glad that these people are choosing a car with substance behind the style, and contributing to British manufacture with their choice. Huzzah for the the Evoque!

OT but
A6 Quattro
But it depends what you are towing as there is a 2 tonne limit. I regularly do 600 miles in a day, and often tow right up to the weight limit. Tyres are limiting factor on soft ground with a heavy trailer but haven't got completely stuck - did have to un hitch and use a rope to pull the trailer forward once - trailer was probably nearer 3 tonnes on that occasion as only crossing an airfield at low speed. Also been to the alps in it (on summer tyres) and over to Stuttgart, it swallows miles. Best works van I have owned.

[UK952]

Dimski said:

I don't think I'd choose one either, but I have wondered about them... I currently do a lot of miles towing, and my XF is great. It cruises, even with the trailer beautifully on the motorways. However, at a couple of places I go regularly, I have got stuck on grassy/soft ground (more than once, I'm ashamed to say). The idea of a vehicle like the Evoque that can do an 600 mile weekend (I'm planning that this weekend) in more comfort on the road than a FL2, drive better when not towing, and give me a bit more ability than the XF to avoid getting stuck appeals a lot.

If I can consider it on these grounds, then surely it is a bit much to say it is nothing but a fashion status car. (Not directed at you, you understand, more at those who write it off on those grounds) Anyway, even if it is, I'm glad that these people are choosing a car with substance behind the style, and contributing to British manufacture with their choice. Huzzah for the the Evoque!

OT but
A6 Quattro
But it depends what you are towing as there is a 2 tonne limit. I regularly do 600 miles in a day, and often tow right up to the weight limit. Tyres are limiting factor on soft ground with a heavy trailer but haven't got completely stuck - did have to un hitch and use a rope to pull the trailer forward once - trailer was probably nearer 3 tonnes on that occasion as only crossing an airfield at low speed. Also been to the alps in it (on summer tyres) and over to Stuttgart, it swallows miles. Best works van I have owned.