Why arent supercars driven?
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The answer is finance.
Nearly all these mid level 'super' cars are bought on finance and this will restrict mileage.
Many live in cities and just aren't used for long drives anywhere.
Because they are asperational many people own them who cannot just drive them outside of the expected mileage zone and take the appreciation or the additional service costs.
Nearly all these mid level 'super' cars are bought on finance and this will restrict mileage.
Many live in cities and just aren't used for long drives anywhere.
Because they are asperational many people own them who cannot just drive them outside of the expected mileage zone and take the appreciation or the additional service costs.
Jasandjules said:
70k on a car is very rich to many, many people.
Of course it is but that wasn't the point I was making, it's also within the realms of possibility for a great deal of 'normal' people who aren't rich in the fact they don't have a fleet of supercars or a helicopter. I put myself in the normal category btw, I've made other sacrifices to fulfill the dream John.
I think it's a shame supercars are generally not driven much. I remember a couple of years ago while my Elise was being serviced a chap was paying for a service/valet on his F355. It had done 300 miles since the last service and he handed over £1,500 for the privilege. You can talk about depreciation all you like but that represents pretty poor value to me. The car was a stunner and I accept everyone has their own reasons for owning a car, but the whole purpose of a supercar is to be driven.
My own 'supercar' gets used whenever possible. It won't go to Asda (Waitrose, yeah...) but as long as it's safe at my destination I'll use it whenever I can because I feel so immensely priviliged to own such a special machine. I might be dead tomorrow and I'd hate to miss a chance to enjoy the car I adore. I get a buzz from being in it and other folk seem to enjoy seeing it on the road as well. It's there to be driven - that's what cars are for - so I intend to drive it whenever and wherever I can.
My own 'supercar' gets used whenever possible. It won't go to Asda (Waitrose, yeah...) but as long as it's safe at my destination I'll use it whenever I can because I feel so immensely priviliged to own such a special machine. I might be dead tomorrow and I'd hate to miss a chance to enjoy the car I adore. I get a buzz from being in it and other folk seem to enjoy seeing it on the road as well. It's there to be driven - that's what cars are for - so I intend to drive it whenever and wherever I can.
Makes perfect sense to me, like has been said they are usually part of a fleet of other cars, the owners generally arent perhaps as obsessed as us and it is just part of a legion of other toys like Helicopters, Motorbikes, holiday homes and even private jets. A lot of people with supercars have lots of other stuff to occupy them.
Sometimes when you have a car like that, you struggle to leave it anywhere as it attracts too much attention and people arent above scratching every panel just to make a point about how st their live is and how they want to ruin your day a bit.
Sometimes people want to just blend in, perhaps be driven, thats what Range Rovers are for, smart but anonymous, I wouldnt want to leave an Enzo outside Sainsburys, if nothing else all the attention, if you arent in the modd and just want a few bits would be annoying.
Sometimes though, I guess it is down to just using it when you fancy it, and hard to beleive some people dont want to drive a Lambo every day. This is one of those things you need to look at through someone elses eye.
Sometimes when you have a car like that, you struggle to leave it anywhere as it attracts too much attention and people arent above scratching every panel just to make a point about how st their live is and how they want to ruin your day a bit.
Sometimes people want to just blend in, perhaps be driven, thats what Range Rovers are for, smart but anonymous, I wouldnt want to leave an Enzo outside Sainsburys, if nothing else all the attention, if you arent in the modd and just want a few bits would be annoying.
Sometimes though, I guess it is down to just using it when you fancy it, and hard to beleive some people dont want to drive a Lambo every day. This is one of those things you need to look at through someone elses eye.
As others have said, the weathly have quite a few cars and therefore will only drive their 458/599/lp560 etc...on the weekend/nice summers evening.
Those that aren't rich but have managed to save up for the "dream" will quickly find that doing 20k+ a year in a F430 is eye wateringly expensive.
I don't have a supercar, but my sports car tends only to get driven at the weekends as I'm away during the week and running it doing 25k per year was very expensive even though people say they're relatively cheap to run.
So we have a car, where the usage patterns tend to be limited to weekend fun, let's say 50 miles per weekend and used on 50% of weekends, plus one long trip (Le Mans / South of France etc.) of 2,000 miles, which gives an annual mileage of ~ 3500 per year. Which is why many feel that more than 3-4k per miles is high mileage
Having said all that, there are plenty of "supercars" that are used every day and do rack up large mileages.
Having said all that, there are plenty of "supercars" that are used every day and do rack up large mileages.
The SLS ( on my profile picture ) belongs to my father in law , and is used very much 'as a car' .
It's not his only car , but when the mood takes him it's used for shopping ( sighted on PH in Lidl , Stockton) , and caused my neighbour to fall about laughing when he turned up at my house with a boot full of logs !
My guess is that it hasn't the fragility associated with the Italian stuff , so will wear it's miles better if he ever decides to sell . It's a piece of mobile magnificence , and went through it's first annual service with change from 300 pounds . What's not to like !
It's not his only car , but when the mood takes him it's used for shopping ( sighted on PH in Lidl , Stockton) , and caused my neighbour to fall about laughing when he turned up at my house with a boot full of logs !
My guess is that it hasn't the fragility associated with the Italian stuff , so will wear it's miles better if he ever decides to sell . It's a piece of mobile magnificence , and went through it's first annual service with change from 300 pounds . What's not to like !
mickyveloce said:
My guess is that it hasn't the fragility associated with the Italian stuff , so will wear it's miles better if he ever decides to sell .
In all fairness, the Italian stuff wears the miles just as well as the German stuff, it's just far more likely to be clocked. Some cars may look tatty at 30k, but in reality have done far more than that Wills2 said:
Those that aren't rich but have managed to save up for the "dream" will quickly find that doing 20k+ a year in a F430 is eye wateringly expensive.
In 20k miles and just over 2 years of ownership in my 430, insurance has cost 600 quid a year, first major service at 18750 miles was pricey at 1500, second service was just an annual minor service at 600 quid. My friend has spent more running his Porsche boxster. Not really what i'd call eye watering for a supercar.John.
steelej said:
In 20k miles and just over 2 years of ownership in my 430, insurance has cost 600 quid a year, first major service at 18750 miles was pricey at 1500, second service was just an annual minor service at 600 quid. My friend has spent more running his Porsche boxster. Not really what i'd call eye watering for a supercar.
John.
What's the fuel and depreciation in that period? John.
markcoznottz said:
What's the fuel and depreciation in that period?
For me depreciation has been low, i bought at the right time, maybe 5k, and fuel is fuel, it's expensive for everyone, doesn't need to be a supercar to guzzle fuel, the Ferrari maybe averages 15mpg, my volvo xc90 averages 18, so like I said there are many non supercar guzzlers that can cost as much on fuel.John.
Edited by steelej on Friday 6th April 12:15
you do get the exceptions... I believe there are at least 2 PHers with super cars with mileage north of 100k.
Ferrari 360 and merci come to mind.
I also thought it would be down to cost of insurance and limitations on it, most people get a limited mileage due it being there weekend car.
Ferrari 360 and merci come to mind.
I also thought it would be down to cost of insurance and limitations on it, most people get a limited mileage due it being there weekend car.
steelej said:
For me depreciation has been low, i bought at the right time, maybe 5k, and fuel is fuel, it's expensive for everyone, doesn't need to be a supercar to guzzle fuel, the Ferrari maybe averages 15mpg, my volvo xc90 averages 18, so like I said there are many non supercar guzzlers that can cost as much on fuel.
John.
Those cars refuse to depreciate, heaven knows why, perhaps because the 458 is a huge jump in price for not much more power etc. John.
Edited by steelej on Friday 6th April 12:15
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