Hot hatch for 1.5k

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chunkymonkey71

13,015 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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The Spruce goose said:
chunkymonkey71 said:
Sub 7 secs rules out pretty much everything in this thread then.
Believe me, the Ignis grips the road like a limpet. I've embarrassed a lot of much higher powered cars in mine on twisty roads.
I know they are good cars and handle well but 110 bhp to me will never be hot hatch not matter how many cars they do. smile

A lot of the cars are in my eyes not hot hatches even in there own time, but this is really in comparison to the age it was built. A hot hatch now would be 250 bhp + maybe 10 years ago 180 bhp +.
In that case my £1500 would probably go on a Honda Prelude. Supposed to be a wee bit boring but a lot of car for the money. 2.2 vtec and mega reliable.

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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DomRm said:
106 Gti without a doubt. Insane handling, hugely tuneable, and if you push your budget to 2k you can get one already running itb's. Will out-handle anything.
Hugely tuneable is kinda a moot point, there no more tuneable than most other engines, just need a load of money dropping on one, which kinda defies the point of a 1.5k budget.

daemon

35,848 posts

198 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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S10 GTA said:
Xsara VTS (Phase 1 if you can, much better looking, and under 1k)
This would get my vote too.

I bought this one last year for £900


Leighhockey

41 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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i owned a 1997 seat ibiza cupra sport 2.0 16v version and was immense worth a look.

MrBrightSi

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2,912 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th April 2012
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Glad this topic has re-lit as im still struggling to make my mind up.

The mr2 argument is that i felt a complete tool when trying to fix mine when its clutch died, ended up just selling it and being done with it, feel a fool but it did need a grand worth of paint and a new gearbox so it was time to say bye. Mid engined is just too cramped to work on.

I'd love a prelude, i was looking at the old one for the quintessential 80's straight edge looks. I'd have a more modern one, but heard that getting one with 4ws working and with a vtec that isnt a little weezy is hard. Oh if i could find a 80's prelude it'd have to be orange, if anyone has seen DJ Mehdi they'll understand.

Gti6 is still a strong shout to be honest, the 30k cambelt does scare me but i'll be doing 7.5k a year social only, so it's not that bad. The 172/182 it is hard to find a clean one in my price range, it would be nice to stretch the budget, but if i start stretching it too much i might aswell go back to the original plan of buying a GT6 and just living my tax free car life again.

Jayho

2,017 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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The Spruce goose said:
chunkymonkey71 said:
Sub 7 secs rules out pretty much everything in this thread then.
Believe me, the Ignis grips the road like a limpet. I've embarrassed a lot of much higher powered cars in mine on twisty roads.
I know they are good cars and handle well but 110 bhp to me will never be hot hatch not matter how many cars they do. smile

A lot of the cars are in my eyes not hot hatches even in there own time, but this is really in comparison to the age it was built. A hot hatch now would be 250 bhp + maybe 10 years ago 180 bhp +.
I will admit that the Ignis Sport isn't a hot hatch by todays standards, but it still has the fundementals (IMO) which makes a good hot hatch.

For me, there's many things other than power which makes a fun hot hatch. Unfortunately manufacturers have started their willy waving of power, and we will only see an increase in power as the years go by. IMO, the main parts of a hot hatch is the ability to put a childish grin on your face while being able to travel unnoticed when wanted. Handling is the key factor for me I suppose, would much rather a car which can handle superbly while using all the power it has, rather than one which is brilliant on a straight line, but has much trouble getting to use all the power it has in all situations. Plus, many modern hatchbacks are quite heavy, therefore requiring more power. Light and nimble is more fun for me.

In saying that, although compared to your EP3's ect, the Ignis is quite slow (0-60 in 8.9), it is still able to put a huge smile on my face every time I drive it and will continue to do that until I get rid of it. + the satisfaction of getting from A to B in a menacing way while having to work for such menace is a major appeal.

tradepro

43 posts

145 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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jezhumphrey75 said:
nissan almera gti!!!! by far

wont break down either and rev tastic
He's right - nothing comes close in this price bracket, unlikely to keep being hit with huge repair bills too.

I have had 5 or 6 of these in my time (some brand new ones as company cars back in the day, up to old ropey ones quite recently) - all awesome (relatively speaking).

For some reason they never looked too great on paper, but in the real world you can embarrass plenty of 'exotica' with one!

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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Almera GTI is a very good car. The Rallye is a great one

petrolsniffer

2,461 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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^^^^ drivers face is priceless laugh

richie barry

610 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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mk3 golf? citroen visa gti integra possibly?

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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I can't speak from experience of all your choices but my 306 Rallye has been a revelation. I love it.

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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Tyrewrecker said:
poing said:
Focus ST, not as exciting as the French stuff but should be cheap to run.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3558889.htm

Expensive on fuel for the poer IMO
I drove one of these a while back, and IMO it was nowhere near as good as the ST24 I bought instead. Seats weren't that great, ride wasn't that good, not enough torque, not that fast, and far, far too expensive for what it is.

OP, what about something a bit different like a 328i? Or even an ST24 on that budget, mine was £800 and brilliant. Vectra B GSI is an alternative choice too, or maybe an Accord Type R?

fozzymandeus

1,045 posts

147 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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318ti compact. More fun than their reputation suggests.

garos

867 posts

160 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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fozzymandeus said:
318ti compact. More fun than their reputation suggests.
Add a couple of hundred quid and you could get an early, higher mileage 325ti smile

Garett

1,626 posts

193 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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How about a Mazda 323f 2.0 V6?

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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BorkFactor said:
I drove one of these a while back, and IMO it was nowhere near as good as the ST24 I bought instead. Seats weren't that great, ride wasn't that good, not enough torque, not that fast, and far, far too expensive for what it is.

OP, what about something a bit different like a 328i? Or even an ST24 on that budget, mine was £800 and brilliant. Vectra B GSI is an alternative choice too, or maybe an Accord Type R?
Those ST24's are great fun. V6 sounds good with a bit of boot too! smile

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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If you can stretch to one of these. I'd go for it. Non abused cars are very reliable, they go like stink, handle well, rwd, proper GT car and I don't think they stay this cheap forever.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-NISSAN-200-SX-TURBO...




richie barry

610 posts

206 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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deltashad said:
If you can stretch to one of these. I'd go for it. Non abused cars are very reliable, they go like stink, handle well, rwd, proper GT car and I don't think they stay this cheap forever.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-NISSAN-200-SX-TURBO...

+1 sivlia's are awsome!

BorkFactor

7,266 posts

159 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Tyrewrecker said:
Those ST24's are great fun. V6 sounds good with a bit of boot too! smile
They certainly are! Mine came with a stainless steel Scorpion exhaust on it which sounded fantastic biggrin

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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S10 GTA said:
Xsara VTS (Phase 1 if you can, much better looking, and under 1k)
+1