What damage can towing large trees do?
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Well they're pretty rugged, mine's a 4.0 Auto too, and so far I haven't broken anything off-roading. I run 35 inch wheels too which stresses the transmission way more than stock wheels.
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Well they're pretty rugged, mine's a 4.0 Auto too, and so far I haven't broken anything off-roading. I run 35 inch wheels too which stresses the transmission way more than stock wheels.
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Cheers. 2006 Rubicon. USD 12,000 asking (say GBP 8,000). 95,000 miles. Good condition. I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Ayahuasca said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Well they're pretty rugged, mine's a 4.0 Auto too, and so far I haven't broken anything off-roading. I run 35 inch wheels too which stresses the transmission way more than stock wheels.
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Cheers. 2006 Rubicon. USD 12,000 asking (say GBP 8,000). 95,000 miles. Good condition. I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
But, assuming it's a standard vehicle and doesn't have loads of expensive extra kit on it to make it worth considering, there's others around for maybe a bit more cash, that have spent a pampered life trundling around on roads.
What you gonna use it for?
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Ayahuasca said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Well they're pretty rugged, mine's a 4.0 Auto too, and so far I haven't broken anything off-roading. I run 35 inch wheels too which stresses the transmission way more than stock wheels.
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Cheers. 2006 Rubicon. USD 12,000 asking (say GBP 8,000). 95,000 miles. Good condition. I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
But, assuming it's a standard vehicle and doesn't have loads of expensive extra kit on it to make it worth considering, there's others around for maybe a bit more cash, that have spent a pampered life trundling around on roads.
What you gonna use it for?
Ayahuasca said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Ayahuasca said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Well they're pretty rugged, mine's a 4.0 Auto too, and so far I haven't broken anything off-roading. I run 35 inch wheels too which stresses the transmission way more than stock wheels.
I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
Cheers. 2006 Rubicon. USD 12,000 asking (say GBP 8,000). 95,000 miles. Good condition. I did get the transmission hot enough one day when I was stuck in mud, that the fluid boiled so much it came pouring out the breather, or should I stay steaming out like a kettle. Is still working fine now though 4 years later.
However, that's gotta be abuse that's even worse than normal towing, hasn't it? At least towing the trailer has wheels, that's just dragging a solid, unforgiving lump.
If I was you, unless it's REALLY REALLY cheap, I wouldn't bother.
There are lots of cars out there, and there's always a better one that comes up for sale around the corner.
How do you know about this particular vehicle and it's life anyway? Give me an idea of exact model / age / condition / mileage / price and I can give you a better idea of whether it's a bargain or a horror!
But, assuming it's a standard vehicle and doesn't have loads of expensive extra kit on it to make it worth considering, there's others around for maybe a bit more cash, that have spent a pampered life trundling around on roads.
What you gonna use it for?
Engine and ancilleries - will be unaffected by this usage so no worries there I would say.
Gearbox - as I said above, auto's seem to be very rugged and stand up to loads of abuse. If it drives fine ad shifts properly, then I would recommend doing a full oil and filter change on the box and hoping for the best. Worse case scenario, if it goes bang, a used unit would be maybe £500 and can be fitted easily in an afternoon. Or a rebuild using new parts - around £1500 to £2000.
Transfer box - same as above - probably even less likely to go bang. Again, drain and refill with new fluid. A good used unit won't be a lot - maybe £200.
Propshafts - probably unaffected by this usage - but check all the Spicer joints for movement and ask the previous owner if they've used the grease nipples on the joints to pump in new grease regularly. If any of the joints are knackered, they cost about £20 each new (there are two on the front prop and three on the rear) and are fairly easy to replace - I did all five on mine on both props in one day recently.
Axles - hmm, the stock Dana axles and Diffs aren't the most rugged items from new. Two things can break - a huge failure of the crown wheel or pinion gear when teeth shear off. This would be obvious and the car would not really be driveable, so easy to spot. Again, parts and rebuild not horrendous, put if the pinion gears need replacing it is a bit of a specialist job. Maybe £300 to £400 total parts and labour cost to rebuild.
As with the gearbox, if you buy the car I would advise draining / refilling the diffs with new EP oil.
If the axle gears are ok, the supporting bearings may not be. There are bearings each side of the diff and the pinion gear. Again, the rebuild is as labour intensive as above, but obviously the parts costs are lower.
Then you have a similar scenario at the other ends of the axles - the wheel bearings. Easy and cheap to change, again, listen for the whine. You can tell if there is wheel bearing wear by driving it on the road. If there is any whining noise from the front or back, then it's knackered bearings.
The only other thing I would then check is suspension mounts and ball joints etc. Again, if they've had a massive amount of strain by the usage described, you may find worn joints. Easy to look for - but best done on a ramp - get a huge metal prybar and lever the joints apart one by one. You will spot excessive movement. All joints fairly simple and cheap to replace.
This might well be a bit of a bargain if you check it thouroughly as I've described. Good luck anyway, and if you do buy it, then it is customary to post up pictures on here, ok?
Edited by Ray Luxury-Yacht on Friday 6th April 21:41
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