Exceeding the speed limit whilst overtaking - opinions
Discussion
sulli said:
66comanche said:
To me speed limits are just something to be aware of with regard to plod/scameras, there are plenty of times I'll travel way in excess of the limit if I know the road, conditions are right, etc.
Same here I would say the vast majority of motorists speed on almost every journey, yet most avoid crashing. Plod should be targeting uninsured/untaxed/reckless (on phone etc) drivers, not those doing 65mph on a nice bit of NSL A road.
Contigo said:
RevHappy said:
Full loud pedal, get out and back ASAP. I don't care if you can see for miles. If you need to pass get it done quickly and cleanly.
Indeed, the problem is in mine if you gas it fully you are twice the speed limit in no time 
If you have assesed the overtake properly you should know if there are any police/speedcameras around anyway so if there's no one to catch you it doesn't really matter if you exceed the limit. If however there were police around and the car infront was traveling well below the speed limit (see <45 in a 60) I would proceed at maybe 10mph max over the limit and slow to the limit once safely past and if the police choose to stop me it'd be a result of my own impatience and a fair cop but I'd imagine 99.9% wouldn't if the overtake was safe and you have returned to the speed limit.
If however there are no police in sight and it isn't nearing a long awaited payday chances are I'd have been speeding before I met the slower car anyway so I would proceed on the way back up to whatever speed I was traveling at before be it 80 leptons on the cruise control or as fast as the car will go before the next braking point :-)
If however there are no police in sight and it isn't nearing a long awaited payday chances are I'd have been speeding before I met the slower car anyway so I would proceed on the way back up to whatever speed I was traveling at before be it 80 leptons on the cruise control or as fast as the car will go before the next braking point :-)
Police vehicles get treated as just another road user in my eyes.
If an overtake is on, it gets done with minimal fuss and TED - still yet to get any trafpol cars asking me where the fire is, or being related to living/dead race drivers.
Most of the time, it's a fair bit over the proscribed limit, with indicators made full use of on both legs of the manoeuvre.
If an overtake is on, it gets done with minimal fuss and TED - still yet to get any trafpol cars asking me where the fire is, or being related to living/dead race drivers.
Most of the time, it's a fair bit over the proscribed limit, with indicators made full use of on both legs of the manoeuvre.
kambites said:
Pretty much the only time that I significantly break the speed limit on single carriageway roads is when overtaking. I don't like being on the wrong side of the road for any longer than I have to.
This. Minimises danger to me, to the car I'm passing, and the people I haven't yet seen coming the other way. I've already taken the bigger risk by choosing to pass at all.At least in a BEC it's all over before anyone's really noticed
ETA: the points above about good observation and complete signalling of intent, and easing-up when past I also agree with / & do.
Edited by Huff on Friday 13th April 23:49
I will always have my foot to the floor all they way through an overtake. If in a NSL area this usually means dropping it down to 3rd, and sometimes a shift to fourth.
I could say that i do this because i think its the safest way (it probably is), but really its 'cos its more fun this way! Overtaking properly is a real pleasure, and completing a safe, fast overtake is one of the best bits about driving for me..
I could say that i do this because i think its the safest way (it probably is), but really its 'cos its more fun this way! Overtaking properly is a real pleasure, and completing a safe, fast overtake is one of the best bits about driving for me..
Mr GrimNasty said:
If you can't overtake confidently and safely without breaking the speed limit, the overtake isn't on. It is that simple.
Profoundly disagree.Level of acceleration can be judged on the road conditions, visibility and how quick the car you are overtaking is going. Might be maximum attack, might also be a more gentle progressive manoeuvre. By and large, it's a kick down jobbie in the E30.
Thought I was going to get a letter through for over NSL overtake a while back. Somewhere between Welshpool and Newtown there's a piece of straight road with great visibility which is one of the few opportunities (for me in my car) to overtake whatever has been holding you up for the last 20 minutes. Was halfway through overtake when saw plod sat in the lay by with radar gun. Really pissed me off as just seemed so cynical to sit in that particular spot waiting for frustrated drivers to overtake.
Max_Torque said:
Unfortunately the law has to panda (sic) to the lowest common denominator, which these days is practically below the inteligence of a radish. These people need a "speed limit" to try to prevent them doing something stupid.
For anyone else with the ability to think for themselves the speed limit is simply a arbitory, but legally binding, "suggestion" as to a maximum safe speed. if we ignore the fact that a modern car can outperform the 1960's car, at which time the limits were set, by a massive margin, we can also realise the fact that this limit cannot cover every eventuality. The ultimate risk descision between your speed and safety lies with each driver. Whilst going faster is obviously going to result in a more severe accident, there is no direct link between risk and speed. In fact, as mentioned, under certain circumstances, faster = less risk.
Very true, even the road markings are designed for the knuckle draggers , arrows painted on the road to show which way the road goes at a corner. We have a road that goes over the moors to Manchester from Huddersfield that has just had red patches with slow on them, there must be over forty or so such road markings on this road. Oh and don't get me started on double lines that are in place where you could have done a overtake and none where it would be suicidal .For anyone else with the ability to think for themselves the speed limit is simply a arbitory, but legally binding, "suggestion" as to a maximum safe speed. if we ignore the fact that a modern car can outperform the 1960's car, at which time the limits were set, by a massive margin, we can also realise the fact that this limit cannot cover every eventuality. The ultimate risk descision between your speed and safety lies with each driver. Whilst going faster is obviously going to result in a more severe accident, there is no direct link between risk and speed. In fact, as mentioned, under certain circumstances, faster = less risk.
Oh and yes I do break the speed limit when doing a overtake, that is why I bought a f
king car with 500bhp because travling on the wrong side of the road is my idea of fking dangerous Sorry I am feeling grumpy this morning , I will be OK after a coffee
Centurion07 said:
66comanche said:
Just realised, this thread is discussing staying within the limit while overtaking, I'll happily overtake people akready doing the NSL, sometimes even if they're at 10-20mph more than NSL depending on my mood/the conditions.
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