Re-Mapping, your experiences.
Discussion
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
I'd like to get my Golf Editon 30 remapped, but I can't see how it will handle the claimed 300bhp as it struggles enough with the 230bhp it has at the moment.
Think like a manufacturer. If you are upping the power, perhaps you should modify other parts to suit.If you up it to 300bhp, it might be worth getting better tyres and/or a LSD/ATB:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf16r-1
Then you would have more power and a drivetrain which can deploy 300bhp better.
Had a few maps on Petrol FI car over the past 10 years, improved the vehicles substantially, and considering the cost, money well spent. The more aggressive throttle maps did get tiresome to live with, but with the advent of "sport" buttons this becomes less of an issue.
My fuel consumption improved, 2 to 3 Mpg, and this was tracking tank to tank, not OBC.
My fuel consumption improved, 2 to 3 Mpg, and this was tracking tank to tank, not OBC.
theboyfold said:
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
I'd like to get my Golf Editon 30 remapped, but I can't see how it will handle the claimed 300bhp as it struggles enough with the 230bhp it has at the moment.
Think like a manufacturer. If you are upping the power, perhaps you should modify other parts to suit.If you up it to 300bhp, it might be worth getting better tyres and/or a LSD/ATB:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf16r-1
Then you would have more power and a drivetrain which can deploy 300bhp better.
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
I'd like to get my Golf Editon 30 remapped, but I can't see how it will handle the claimed 300bhp as it struggles enough with the 230bhp it has at the moment.
Think like a manufacturer. If you are upping the power, perhaps you should modify other parts to suit.If you up it to 300bhp, it might be worth getting better tyres and/or a LSD/ATB:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf16r-1
Then you would have more power and a drivetrain which can deploy 300bhp better.
theboyfold said:
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
RobCrezz said:
theboyfold said:
I'd like to get my Golf Editon 30 remapped, but I can't see how it will handle the claimed 300bhp as it struggles enough with the 230bhp it has at the moment.
Think like a manufacturer. If you are upping the power, perhaps you should modify other parts to suit.If you up it to 300bhp, it might be worth getting better tyres and/or a LSD/ATB:
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf16r-1
Then you would have more power and a drivetrain which can deploy 300bhp better.
james280779 said:
errrr not EFI, twin weber carb.
the car has only done 60k from new, runs on a renault gearbox so that would be easy enough to replace. I am thinking of fitting a stainless exhaust rather than old rotty one so a remap for the difference in back pressure and a possible slight power increase. I dont want a huge power increase as the car is already lightning fast. Might of already been done, I havent driven any others to compare though
also the drivetrain and the engine are the same as the SE which has a different chip and is chargecooled. That puts out an extra 60 horses or so and I know of people that have increased that with no issues. Obviously the chargecooling makes a difference but how much?
If it's carb then it has no ECU and can't be re-mapped as it doesn't even have a map. Unless it's some form of TBI electronic carb.the car has only done 60k from new, runs on a renault gearbox so that would be easy enough to replace. I am thinking of fitting a stainless exhaust rather than old rotty one so a remap for the difference in back pressure and a possible slight power increase. I dont want a huge power increase as the car is already lightning fast. Might of already been done, I havent driven any others to compare though
also the drivetrain and the engine are the same as the SE which has a different chip and is chargecooled. That puts out an extra 60 horses or so and I know of people that have increased that with no issues. Obviously the chargecooling makes a difference but how much?
Edited by james280779 on Monday 23 April 01:27
If it's proper old fashioned carbs then they can be tuned and should be. Either playing with the needles or by re-jetting them. This can also be done on a rolling road, but you'll want to find someone who understands carbs.
JagJag363 said:
Would there be any point in remapping a 2006 1.4 Corsa Sxi?
The potential is there to make it run better, smoother and with less flat spots. And it's possible to gain some HP. But lets be realistic, even if you gained 5% PEAK HP, well 5% of not a lot to start with is still going to equal bugger all.For the cost of a remap and the limited returns on a 1.4 Corsa and the fact it's a Corsa, so will lose money quicker than a Frenchman living next door to a brothel. You have to ask "is it worth it?", to which the answer is clearly "no".
300bhp/ton said:
If it's carb then it has no ECU and can't be re-mapped as it doesn't even have a map. Unless it's some form of TBI electronic carb.
If it's proper old fashioned carbs then they can be tuned and should be. Either playing with the needles or by re-jetting them. This can also be done on a rolling road, but you'll want to find someone who understands carbs.
thanks for that, only carbs I had before were on my Mini 1275gt when i was 18. If it's proper old fashioned carbs then they can be tuned and should be. Either playing with the needles or by re-jetting them. This can also be done on a rolling road, but you'll want to find someone who understands carbs.
I dont know why - it seems far more responsive than any injection I have driven lately.
StottyZr said:
denniswise9 said:
Friends Ibiza TD is on a stage 2 remap with 190bhp and 380IB FT. He went for a torque map, not a HP map and it flys, can out pull a stock Focus RS.
When you say "out pull" do you mean it has more torque? Because a Focus RS is a fast car, and a 190hp Ibiza is not.
t to be honest. "Torque map" 
If its a good map it would create good torque AND power. Good power is made by maintaining that torque up the revs, god knows why you would intentionally not maintain that power and call it a "Torque map".RobCrezz said:
I think its bullst to be honest. "Torque map" If its a good map it would create good torque AND power. Good power is made by maintaining that torque up the revs, god knows why you would intentionally not maintain that power and call it a "Torque map".
Probably means eco map.t to be honest. "Torque map" If its a good map it would create good torque AND power. Good power is made by maintaining that torque up the revs, god knows why you would intentionally not maintain that power and call it a "Torque map".BIG difference in my E39 530D.
Previously meant to be aprox 193bhp standard.
I'm now running supposedly around 240bhp and 20% increase on torque, however it isn't the figures that are the shouting point. It's the BIG difference to the responsiveness, driveability, the willingless to rev and the power is produced right up until the redline, whereas before it tailed off way before the redline.
For comparison sakes, I had a play with a 2007 plate 530d which I'm assuming was standard and I edged away by a couple of car lengths upto around 90-100mph on a track. To say the newer 530d's driver was displeased would be an understatement
Previously meant to be aprox 193bhp standard.
I'm now running supposedly around 240bhp and 20% increase on torque, however it isn't the figures that are the shouting point. It's the BIG difference to the responsiveness, driveability, the willingless to rev and the power is produced right up until the redline, whereas before it tailed off way before the redline.
For comparison sakes, I had a play with a 2007 plate 530d which I'm assuming was standard and I edged away by a couple of car lengths upto around 90-100mph on a track. To say the newer 530d's driver was displeased would be an understatement
300bhp/ton said:
The potential is there to make it run better, smoother and with less flat spots. And it's possible to gain some HP. But lets be realistic, even if you gained 5% PEAK HP, well 5% of not a lot to start with is still going to equal bugger all.
For the cost of a remap and the limited returns on a 1.4 Corsa and the fact it's a Corsa, so will lose money quicker than a Frenchman living next door to a brothel. You have to ask "is it worth it?", to which the answer is clearly "no".
Cheers for reply, insurance is crazy on something quick for me, so just wondering if i could make best of a bad situation.For the cost of a remap and the limited returns on a 1.4 Corsa and the fact it's a Corsa, so will lose money quicker than a Frenchman living next door to a brothel. You have to ask "is it worth it?", to which the answer is clearly "no".
my 2005 renault laguna 2.0dCi had a dyno-tested 152bhp as standard, and was 'mapped up to 189bhp at a cost of £230.
very pleased and highly recommended - a company in wombourne, wolves, saw to this.
oh, and engine now sits at 208k
with no problems whatsoever.
as another ph'er has said, this is clearly a friday car, whereby they forgot to put the obligatory faults in
very pleased and highly recommended - a company in wombourne, wolves, saw to this.
oh, and engine now sits at 208k
with no problems whatsoever.as another ph'er has said, this is clearly a friday car, whereby they forgot to put the obligatory faults in
theboyfold said:
I'd like to get my Golf Editon 30 remapped, but I can't see how it will handle the claimed 300bhp as it struggles enough with the 230bhp it has at the moment.
Presumably you have budget tyres on it if it is struggling with that relatively small amount of power presently?Edit: I see you've got PS2s, they're very good so that's surprising!
Must be your reckless jerky driving then...
Edited by Timbuk2 on Friday 27th April 00:44
jackmontandon said:
StottyZr said:
When you say "out pull" do you mean it has more torque? Because a Focus RS is a fast car, and a 190hp Ibiza is not.
Theres about 30bhp / tonne difference between the two, the ibiza has lots more torque, can see it being fairly closeGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff