High mileage cars for sale

[tomic]

295,000 miles on this 2012 Lexus GS250

http://www.davidbrotherscarsales.co.uk/cars-for-sa...

[em177]

tomic said:

295,000 miles on this 2012 Lexus GS250

http://www.davidbrotherscarsales.co.uk/cars-for-sa...

I love that. And I’ve owned a few 200k+ miles Lexus now, but that one just isn’t cheap enough compared to a 100k mile version.

[tomic]

Just looked at the MOT History for the GS250 - it'd only done 19,000 miles after 3 years, then it did 69,000 miles the year after and similar mileages ever since. Must have been running almost non stop and they're fairly thirsty so not a typical Taxi. Wonder what it was used for.

[em177]

tomic said:

Just looked at the MOT History for the GS250 - it'd only done 19,000 miles after 3 years, then it did 69,000 miles the year after and similar mileages ever since. Must have been running almost non stop and they're fairly thirsty so not a typical Taxi. Wonder what it was used for.

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

[Jimmy Recard]

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

[ATM]

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

[Dapster]

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

[ATM]

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

[DoubleD]

ATM said:

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

People who lease, PCP and also company cars.

This will make up the vast majority of new car sales. So I would say that pretty much all of them will have genuine mileage.

As has been previously said, there is nothing suspicious going on.

[jonwm]

My company cars usually are on 70k to 100k by the first MOT yet my wifes leased cars are on 15k max. Just different uses

[Toaster Pilot]

A lot of Motability stuff is low mileage too. Not to say it’s well looked after, mind.

[zedx19]

Also wouldn't assume that just because it was PCP/Lease, the mileage is genuine. I'd imagine there's a lot of idiots who take out the lowest monthly based on 5k PA, then do 20k and give it a haircut before it's handed back.

[John Locke]

ATM said:

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

Most of my neighbours "buy" a new car every three years, some at more than £1,000 per month.
Thank heavens for useful idiots; I can then have their £70k car for less than £30k, and enjoy the remaining 90% of its useful life.

[Toaster Pilot]

John Locke said:

Most of my neighbours "buy" a new car every three years, some at more than £1,000 per month.
Thank heavens for useful idiots; I can then have their £70k car for less than £30k, and enjoy the remaining 90% of its useful life.

Not this st again

[DoubleD]

John Locke said:

Most of my neighbours "buy" a new car every three years, some at more than £1,000 per month.
Thank heavens for useful idiots; I can then have their £70k car for less than £30k, and enjoy the remaining 90% of its useful life.

Sounds like they got a good deal then. The lease cost them less than the depreciation.

[ATM]

DoubleD said:

ATM said:

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

People who lease, PCP and also company cars.

This will make up the vast majority of new car sales. So I would say that pretty much all of them will have genuine mileage.

As has been previously said, there is nothing suspicious going on.

I know someone in the leasing game. Some of this person's customers openly admit to getting a haircut before returning cars. So lease for 5000 miles per annum and run up 45000 miles over 2 years then haircut back to say 8 or 9000. Hand the car back and avoid any penalties. Assuming it doesn't happen with lease or PCP is just daft.

[ATM]

DoubleD said:

ATM said:

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

People who lease, PCP and also company cars.

This will make up the vast majority of new car sales. So I would say that pretty much all of them will have genuine mileage.

As has been previously said, there is nothing suspicious going on.

I know someone in the leasing game. Some of this person's customers openly admit to getting a haircut before returning cars. So lease for 5000 miles per annum and run up 45000 miles over 2 years then haircut back to say 8 or 9000. Hand the car back and avoid any penalties. Assuming it doesn't happen with lease or PCP is just daft.

[DoubleD]

ATM said:

DoubleD said:

ATM said:

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

People who lease, PCP and also company cars.

This will make up the vast majority of new car sales. So I would say that pretty much all of them will have genuine mileage.

As has been previously said, there is nothing suspicious going on.

I know someone in the leasing game. Some of this person's customers openly admit to getting a haircut before returning cars. So lease for 5000 miles per annum and run up 45000 miles over 2 years then haircut back to say 8 or 9000. Hand the car back and avoid any penalties. Assuming it doesn't happen with lease or PCP is just daft.

Most will have genuine miles.

[jonobigblind]

Plenty of company car owners that have them as part of a ‘status package’ rather than essential user.

Two of us in my team at my last place - both had company cars as part of package. He lived about 9 miles from the office, I lived 65 miles.

Just because it’s a company car it doesn’t mean it’s going to the moon and back...

[ATM]

DoubleD said:

ATM said:

DoubleD said:

ATM said:

Dapster said:

ATM said:

Jimmy Recard said:

em177 said:

I wonder if it had a haircut before it’s first MOT and has actually done significantly more miles...

Or 20,000 mile lease for three years and became a taxi once sold to the following owner

I'm always very suspicious of almost any car that only does 20000 miles in first three years since new. Makes no sense someone buying a new car to then hardly use it.

The average UK motorist drives 7,900 miles per annum according to DoT calculations on 23m MOTs (which presumably include all the dodgy haircuts....). So 20k in 3 years is bang on average - nothing suspicious.

But why buy a brand new car and then sell it after only 20000 miles. I know some people will do it but it is surely in the minority. The rest have all had haircuts I'm sure. How do you know which one you are buying when it's so hard to tell the difference.

People who lease, PCP and also company cars.

This will make up the vast majority of new car sales. So I would say that pretty much all of them will have genuine mileage.

As has been previously said, there is nothing suspicious going on.

I know someone in the leasing game. Some of this person's customers openly admit to getting a haircut before returning cars. So lease for 5000 miles per annum and run up 45000 miles over 2 years then haircut back to say 8 or 9000. Hand the car back and avoid any penalties. Assuming it doesn't happen with lease or PCP is just daft.

Most will have genuine miles.

Clearly our view of people differs. I'm perhaps more sinister in my expectations than you are. This haircut malarkey has been going on for years. I think PCP and lease deals which make it much more advantageous for the individual owners have moved this problem from dodgy dealer forecourts to private individuals. The sums of money involved incentivise people to do it.

Example

Lease deal for 5000 miles per annum with 7p penalty for each mile going over.

You do 45000 miles so 35000 over which is £2450 penalty. Not sure about VAT.

Thats only based on 7p. Some premium cars could be more.

Anyway I'm sure a haircut is much much cheaper.

If someone can make £2000 by getting a harcut I think more would do it than would not.