RE: You Know You Want To: 1959 Austin Mini. Unrestored
Discussion
t.B'stard Child said:
Mr2Mike said:
B'stard Child said:
minis are in a whole world of their own and the steel is so thin it's hard work welding them up
Are you sure you don't have some crap pattern panels? I certainly never found the steel to be particularly thin compared to any other cars of the era, and had no problems welding them. Obviously corroded metal can be pretty thin, but that should be chopped out anyway.You are right about pattern panels they are thinner tried a couple but ended up buying heritage and replacing them again
You can't run a line of weld it's all dot pause dot pause dot pause dot etc
And the steel is way thinner than a comparable aged Opel
Though to be honest thats bad practice, you'll be putting so much heat into the panel you'll run the risk of warping it, so pause dot pause it is :P
jbi said:
The true definition of automotive turd.
About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Restore it back to it's former glory and either use it or display it. About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Because of it's rarity i think displaying it for the public to see would be a nice thing to do with the odd day out at Goodwood and such events.
This vehicle is a piece of valuable automotive history and should be treated as such. If Sir Alec Issigonis were still around today he would be properly chuffed to bits that we still love and value his designs, and cherish them to the point of paying high sums of money for a very rusty and very old mini.
It's iconic designs like the mini that shape the future of motoring 40-50yrs on.
How many modern motors do you think are as iconic as, and may potentially have a similar affect on motoring 40-50yrs from now as the mini.
Not many Benny!!
Link to this story on the cover of one of our local newspapers:-
http://issuu.com/love-news-media/docs/ch_draft_iss...
http://issuu.com/love-news-media/docs/ch_draft_iss...
ScoobieWRX said:
jbi said:
The true definition of automotive turd.
About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Restore it back to it's former glory and either use it or display it. About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Because of it's rarity i think displaying it for the public to see would be a nice thing to do with the odd day out at Goodwood and such events.
This vehicle is a piece of valuable automotive history and should be treated as such. If Sir Alec Issigonis were still around today he would be properly chuffed to bits that we still love and value his designs, and cherish them to the point of paying high sums of money for a very rusty and very old mini.
It's iconic designs like the mini that shape the future of motoring 40-50yrs on.
How many modern motors do you think are as iconic as, and may potentially have a similar affect on motoring 40-50yrs from now as the mini.
Not many Benny!!
Just don't get it!
Edited by SuperHangOn on Saturday 21st April 13:10
SuperHangOn said:
ScoobieWRX said:
jbi said:
The true definition of automotive turd.
About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Restore it back to it's former glory and either use it or display it. About the same size and colour as well.
Seriously... Once bought what are you supposed to do with it?
Because of it's rarity i think displaying it for the public to see would be a nice thing to do with the odd day out at Goodwood and such events.
This vehicle is a piece of valuable automotive history and should be treated as such. If Sir Alec Issigonis were still around today he would be properly chuffed to bits that we still love and value his designs, and cherish them to the point of paying high sums of money for a very rusty and very old mini.
It's iconic designs like the mini that shape the future of motoring 40-50yrs on.
How many modern motors do you think are as iconic as, and may potentially have a similar affect on motoring 40-50yrs from now as the mini.
Not many Benny!!
There will be enough panels and parts left on that car that will be salvageable, and repaired and refurbished back to like brand new, same with the engine, suspension etc..., that will leave enough of the original car to be deemed the original car.
However, going by your reasoning why should we restore any old cars? Are you sure you should be on PH??
12 to 15 grand for something like that, aside from it being an early one and having some historical interest, its a rusty old Mini that will either take thousands to put right or be left as it is, i.e. scrap.
Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
J4CKO said:
12 to 15 grand for something like that, aside from it being an early one and having some historical interest, its a rusty old Mini that will either take thousands to put right or be left as it is, i.e. scrap.
Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
You can do that with any mini old or new. What's special about that apart from it will be a lot of fun to drive. My first mini was totally bog standard apart from the rusty drivers floor and was a shed load of fun to drive just as it was.Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
This is about saving a very old and factory original mini, a piece of motoring history no less and restoring it to it's former glory. Same as other vintage or classic motor cars you would do exactly the same with.
People buy antiques and can spend thousands restoring them. Why?? Because they are little bits of our human history and things of beauty that are worth restoring and preserving for future generations to see how beautiful the things we made used to be and how they were made which tells us something about where we've come from.
50yrs from now this car will still be around and worth a shed load more than some Halfords customised beefed or blinged up mini that will never be worth the sum of it's parts, and eventually will be written off or scrapped when it's too knackered, beaten up, and too rusty to do anything with.
I could think of nothing worse than chucking some carlos fandango wheels and tyres on it with a peco exhaust (as i did on my 1275GT in my yoof) which would totally spoil everything about it.
Your blinged up mini will be long forgotten about while this little beauty is still being admired by the people for it's iconic design and simplicity, looking like it just came out of the factory. Fantastic!!
SAndals said:
£12k...you can get a nearly new MINI Cooper S for that...
Get out...I do like this car and as a mini owner it does appeal but personally coudlnt not justify paying 15k for that. Personally would rather by a mid 60's car keep it looking old with a lot of period mods taking it to circa 110bhp and fit the cooper s disks etc which imagine could be done for similar money if not less
It's all about the unrestored condition. Patina, they call it. Like John Bly fondling the underside of some Georgian drawers on the Antiques Roadshow. There's a growing trend in car restoration to preserve rather than replace. And it's very desirable amongst a few super rich.
I recall reading in a Classic Car type mag about an unrestored Barn Find Aston DB5, that went at auction for almost as much as a newly done one. The dealer who bought it was asked who was going to restore it, and he said "No one - in ten years time it will be the ONLY barn find unrestored DB5". And thus worth a fortune to someone.
I recall reading in a Classic Car type mag about an unrestored Barn Find Aston DB5, that went at auction for almost as much as a newly done one. The dealer who bought it was asked who was going to restore it, and he said "No one - in ten years time it will be the ONLY barn find unrestored DB5". And thus worth a fortune to someone.
ScoobieWRX said:
J4CKO said:
12 to 15 grand for something like that, aside from it being an early one and having some historical interest, its a rusty old Mini that will either take thousands to put right or be left as it is, i.e. scrap.
Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
You can do that with any mini old or new. What's special about that apart from it will be a lot of fun to drive. My first mini was totally bog standard apart from the rusty drivers floor and was a shed load of fun to drive just as it was.Now I love Mini's as they are great fun, what is fun about this, thousands to get it right and even then you can only go totally original which will be crap, slow, old and rubbish, thats if it even gets driven, for 12 grand you could build a stonking Mini or buy one that someone else has done with proper brakes, a decent engine with some power, no rust and sorted handling which would be a lot more fun, Mini's had character but they needed uprating to really be fun, a 100 bhp Mini is massive fun.
One for the serious Mini historian/museum.
This is about saving a very old and factory original mini, a piece of motoring history no less and restoring it to it's former glory. Same as other vintage or classic motor cars you would do exactly the same with.
People buy antiques and can spend thousands restoring them. Why?? Because they are little bits of our human history and things of beauty that are worth restoring and preserving for future generations to see how beautiful the things we made used to be and how they were made which tells us something about where we've come from.
50yrs from now this car will still be around and worth a shed load more than some Halfords customised beefed or blinged up mini that will never be worth the sum of it's parts, and eventually will be written off or scrapped when it's too knackered, beaten up, and too rusty to do anything with.
I could think of nothing worse than chucking some carlos fandango wheels and tyres on it with a peco exhaust (as i did on my 1275GT in my yoof) which would totally spoil everything about it.
Your blinged up mini will be long forgotten about while this little beauty is still being admired by the people for it's iconic design and simplicity, looking like it just came out of the factory. Fantastic!!
Not a fan of Mini's but what a find.
I hope they keep it unrestored and not put a cherry bomb exhaust like the prat who drives past my house daily!
I wouldnt mind but its soo slow it takes ages for the noise to go!
The R8 that gives it some is lovely so im not against noisey cars just Mini's!
I hope they keep it unrestored and not put a cherry bomb exhaust like the prat who drives past my house daily!
I wouldnt mind but its soo slow it takes ages for the noise to go!
The R8 that gives it some is lovely so im not against noisey cars just Mini's!
Common sense disappears at times - especially when big bucks are mentioned!
So, the car has allegedly stood all this time in a barn since it was purchased from the old lady owner. WHY then did the consortium who bought it 'not' view it and then find it semi-dismantled?
'...the group actually bought it without having seen it in the (somewhat crumbly) metal. Fortunately the car - which arrived in a semi-dismantled state, with engine and gearbox separate from the car, and various bits and bobs in three black sacks - was actually fairly complete...'
'Fairly' complete? Who's being taken for a Maxi ride here?
'Original'? Take an look at the inside of the driver's door... why is the metalwork 'RED'! or am I seeing things?
Hype to get some silly bugger to part with cash loads.
This very early Jan 1960 Austin Seven Mini in superb restored condition fetched £4750.
Ok it's not the oldest Mini, there were probably just under a 1000 in front of this. How long before the next oldest one appears?
Who says Austin Seven Minis were small anyway - wonder which number this was off the line in 1959?
perhaps it's waiting out there in a barn?
So, the car has allegedly stood all this time in a barn since it was purchased from the old lady owner. WHY then did the consortium who bought it 'not' view it and then find it semi-dismantled?
'...the group actually bought it without having seen it in the (somewhat crumbly) metal. Fortunately the car - which arrived in a semi-dismantled state, with engine and gearbox separate from the car, and various bits and bobs in three black sacks - was actually fairly complete...'
'Fairly' complete? Who's being taken for a Maxi ride here?
'Original'? Take an look at the inside of the driver's door... why is the metalwork 'RED'! or am I seeing things?
Hype to get some silly bugger to part with cash loads.
This very early Jan 1960 Austin Seven Mini in superb restored condition fetched £4750.
Ok it's not the oldest Mini, there were probably just under a 1000 in front of this. How long before the next oldest one appears?
Who says Austin Seven Minis were small anyway - wonder which number this was off the line in 1959?
perhaps it's waiting out there in a barn?
Edited by dandarez on Sunday 22 April 01:17
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