Kia Cee'd 1.6 CRDi £21k RRP WTF
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YeahYeahWhatever said:
Welshbeef said:
mackie1 said:
New car prices are way high, although you never really pay list. Skoda were selling Fabias and Octavias last year for 20% off list. An Octavia vRS came in at about £16k when a Golf GTI (with lower spec and little discount offered) would set you back £24k.
Exactly you'd need 9,000 reasons to want the Golf over the Octavia. It's all ok buying it, residuals is where the pain will come from. For example my £26k car worth £7000 after 4 years and 100k, it's a stupid family diesel passat, how can families afford something like a new car is beyond me
My friend recently sold his 1 owner 57 plate fiesta with 80k on thr clock for £ 2500, he paid 10k for it brand new and now wondering if he actually needs a car . I really do think tide is turning against car ownership and the good times are truly over
My friend recently sold his 1 owner 57 plate fiesta with 80k on thr clock for £ 2500, he paid 10k for it brand new and now wondering if he actually needs a car . I really do think tide is turning against car ownership and the good times are truly over
D_G said:
Cars are expensive as most are built in Europe and as the Pound has been weak against the Euro hence prices have gone up. Also the cost of materials has gone through the roof.
I can't see prices coming down anytime soon.
Not entirely sure that's the reason - look at motorbikes - Jap. bikes are stupidly expensive these days, yet even a 'premium' brand like BMW looks amazingly affordable now.I can't see prices coming down anytime soon.
HeatonNorris said:
Not entirely sure that's the reason - look at motorbikes - Jap. bikes are stupidly expensive these days, yet even a 'premium' brand like BMW looks amazingly affordable now.
Japanese bikes (most are still built in Japan) are even more expensive as the Yen is very strong against the pound. In 2008 you could get nearly 200Y for a pound, today it's under 130Y and it's been as low as 116Y.D_G said:
HeatonNorris said:
Not entirely sure that's the reason - look at motorbikes - Jap. bikes are stupidly expensive these days, yet even a 'premium' brand like BMW looks amazingly affordable now.
Japanese bikes (most are still built in Japan) are even more expensive as the Yen is very strong against the pound. In 2008 you could get nearly 200Y for a pound, today it's under 130Y and it's been as low as 116Y.
Welshbeef said:
DoctorX said:
Was in a Ford showroom today. They had a Focus Titanium X marked up for 27 grand. Gobsmacked.
Wow and in 4-5years time trade in £6k tops. Which would be depreciation of 550-600pcm net salary. Not far off taking a £10k gross per year pay cut. Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
DoctorX said:
greggy50 said:
New cars are expensive dad has ordered a new focus 163 titanium x diesel as company car with metalic and sat nav that was circa 25k 
Was in a Ford showroom today. They had a Focus Titanium X marked up for 27 grand. Gobsmacked.http://www.motorpoint.co.uk/VehicleAdvert/Ford/Foc...
CDP said:
It's crazy.
Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
Just think you can buy a C5 RS6 for £10k. It will do 18-20mpg it may cost £2k per year servicing budget but it would be vastly cheaper than the £27k focus titanium and you could have a Leon Cupra R for £4-5 k extra and you wouldn't lose much if any cash in both. Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
Utter madness. I'll never buy new buy used 3 years newest then own for min four years and always buy the best fastest model you can.
Welshbeef said:
CDP said:
It's crazy.
Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
Just think you can buy a C5 RS6 for £10k. It will do 18-20mpg it may cost £2k per year servicing budget but it would be vastly cheaper than the £27k focus titanium and you could have a Leon Cupra R for £4-5 k extra and you wouldn't lose much if any cash in both. Leasing prices make things look even sillier. You can get an A6 for half the price of that Focus.
Utter madness. I'll never buy new buy used 3 years newest then own for min four years and always buy the best fastest model you can.
DoctorX said:
My Mondeo had a List price of £26500. Bought one year old, < 5000 miles, £13,500. Half price, thank you very much. Straightjacket required for anyone paying near list for that Focus.
That's essentially a brand new car in my eyes. After 5 years ownership in guessing it will be worth £3k worst case? So £2k per year depreciation £167pcm after 5 years give it to the wife to run for a further 5 years while you go out and buy a replacement repeat until you retire and require one car.
Job done. Cheap motoring.
You could have bought an RS6 for the same price.... With hardly any depreciation...
If you really, really, really want a new car lease one. Poor exchange rate on the pound, VAT going from 15% to 20% and inflation have all contributed in the last 3 years.
I sell cars. Spoke to a chap in the showroom today (very nice guy!) who had bought a new car 7 years ago from us. I saw him wince when he saw the price board next to a new car in the showroom and we talked about the very things above. Although the car in the showroom was very well equipped and great value compared to its competitors, i can't say new cars are good value for money anymore.
The only people who seem to go down the new route are the retired who want a specific spec or younger people on PCPs who like the lower monthly payments. Which brings me back to my first point, leasing would be a hell of a lot cheaper.
I sell cars. Spoke to a chap in the showroom today (very nice guy!) who had bought a new car 7 years ago from us. I saw him wince when he saw the price board next to a new car in the showroom and we talked about the very things above. Although the car in the showroom was very well equipped and great value compared to its competitors, i can't say new cars are good value for money anymore.
The only people who seem to go down the new route are the retired who want a specific spec or younger people on PCPs who like the lower monthly payments. Which brings me back to my first point, leasing would be a hell of a lot cheaper.
Welshbeef said:
That's essentially a brand new car in my eyes.
After 5 years ownership in guessing it will be worth £3k worst case? So £2k per year depreciation £167pcm after 5 years give it to the wife to run for a further 5 years while you go out and buy a replacement repeat until you retire and require one car.
Job done. Cheap motoring.
You could have bought an RS6 for the same price.... With hardly any depreciation...
Cheap motoring my arse. The reason I was in the showroom today was to be presented with a bill for £1000 for a new steering rack on a 32000 mile car just out of warranty. Looks like they're trying to get some of their money back that I saved....After 5 years ownership in guessing it will be worth £3k worst case? So £2k per year depreciation £167pcm after 5 years give it to the wife to run for a further 5 years while you go out and buy a replacement repeat until you retire and require one car.
Job done. Cheap motoring.
You could have bought an RS6 for the same price.... With hardly any depreciation...
Lucky13 said:
If you really, really, really want a new car lease one. Poor exchange rate on the pound, VAT going from 15% to 20% and inflation have all contributed in the last 3 years.
I sell cars. Spoke to a chap in the showroom today (very nice guy!) who had bought a new car 7 years ago from us. I saw him wince when he saw the price board next to a new car in the showroom and we talked about the very things above. Although the car in the showroom was very well equipped and great value compared to its competitors, i can't say new cars are good value for money anymore.
The only people who seem to go down the new route are the retired who want a specific spec or younger people on PCPs who like the lower monthly payments. Which brings me back to my first point, leasing would be a hell of a lot cheaper.
+1I sell cars. Spoke to a chap in the showroom today (very nice guy!) who had bought a new car 7 years ago from us. I saw him wince when he saw the price board next to a new car in the showroom and we talked about the very things above. Although the car in the showroom was very well equipped and great value compared to its competitors, i can't say new cars are good value for money anymore.
The only people who seem to go down the new route are the retired who want a specific spec or younger people on PCPs who like the lower monthly payments. Which brings me back to my first point, leasing would be a hell of a lot cheaper.
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