Bigger the car, bigger the ego......

Bigger the car, bigger the ego......

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Dusty964

6,923 posts

191 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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lyonspride said:
^^ Why skim reading is a bad idea
I wish I had 'skim read' it.

It just seems a little unlikely that once he overtook you, he stopes his car on a single lane road, and got out of the car to fight you?

Adding that you were going to teach him some manners, but decided not to due to his puny stature simply makes you come across as being a bit of a knob really.
Of course, you were going to teach him some manners with your trusty torch-no doubt carried in the car for every similar circumstance- but were too busy laughing at his build.

By the power of Greyskull.

Or numbskull, whichever fits best

k15tox

1,680 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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ArsE92 said:
Me too, my friend. Me too.


You guys ever take a day off?

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Maybe it should be 'drivers of Japanese pickups are tts' wink
No.

I 'overtook' a parked up Dodge Ram 3500 on my bicycle



At the very moment I was level with his cab he accelerated out from the kerb forcing me onto the wrong side of the road.

I obviously wound him up by shouting 'hey' and swerving out of harms way as he then decided to point his pistol at me at tell me to 'fk off you bike riding pussy'.

Now he had a point, I am a pussy and I was riding a bike but he confirmed the fact that there are a lot of men with small penises and impotence problems driving outsize trucks...........


Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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There are a lot of shaven headed yobs driving Jap pickups. At least they are easy to spot and easy to out run.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

186 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Maybe the names of the vehicles attract a certain individual? I don't mean to generalise (as I know not all people who drive them are fools) but there does seem to be an above average level of knuckle-dragging owners.

I mean honestly just on names alone, I'd be embarrassed to drive around in a "Warrior" or "Barbarian".. they're almost comically bad names. And the advertising campaign for them a few years back used to imply that with these on the roads, all other motorists / cars would run away and hide because they were so intimidating.

It has to make you laugh really.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Chicane-UK said:
I'd be embarrassed to drive around in a "Warrior" or "Barbarian".. they're almost comically bad names.
Also rather gay, no?

I was stuck behind a Jap wagon the other day and it was called "Knobber". No kidding, is this is a real model? It seems like a joke except it was a proper badge and dead straight. It was amusing as it is exactly what the world already thinks of their owners.

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Somnophore said:
Some people are just mental, to varying degrees.
Quite. Some poeple try to make it impossible for you to overtake them on B roads, drive at silly slow speeds everywhere until there is a straight section of road, then they speed up and move towards the centre of the road. Mental.

jbi

12,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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i'm sure there are drivers who buy bigger cars out of insecurity... but I would assume most of us do because we

A. Love the room, ride comfort and practicality a large vehicle offers
B. Love the freedom in this country that allows us to buy whatever we want.

I'm not wealthy, far from in fact... but that does not stop me from enjoying comfy barges or big trucks as they are quite economically viable with a little creativity in your budget.

Anyone who would like to meet me would probably find me most courteous and affable.

EDIT: that said, I think a name badge delete would be appropriate if I ever found myself driving a "barbarian"

Studio117

4,250 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Those pickup's are just an extension of white van man.

Clearly double hard since they work in a trade.

aizvara

2,051 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Not had many problems with the local rural users of such vehicles, including a Dodge Ram, and various Japanese pickups.

However, I did once nearly get run over by someone driving a Mitsubishi Compensator. I was walking on the pavement alongside a narrow road; narrow enough to not have room for two cars. Rather than wait for an oncoming car to reach a gap, or wait at the previous gap himself, Mr Pickup decided to drive on the pavement without so much as slowing down, because he could. Unfortunately this was the pavement I was walking on, fortunately I saw him not slowing and moved in time.

Having also had one of these things purposefully accelerate at me and beep madly for having the temerity to join a busy roundabout (I reached the give way line first, he was to my right, but not yet on the roundabout), I think that more and more people are driving angry.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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aizvara said:
I think that more and more people are driving angry.
They are probably angry as they have to do crappy manual work for little pay, then have to drive home in one of the slowest vehicles on the road. It must be mildly annoying to be overtaken by girls in KAs.

carreauchompeur

17,851 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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k-ink said:
They are probably angry as they have to do crappy manual work for little pay, then have to drive home in one of the slowest vehicles on the road. It must be mildly annoying to be overtaken by girls in KAs.
rofl Frustrated barbarians!

djfaulkner

1,103 posts

219 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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lyonspride said:
Seriously, does this guy want a punch up with EVERY car that dares overtake him?

I considered reaching for the Maglite and torching the guy some manners
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rj1986

1,107 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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djfaulkner said:
lyonspride said:
Seriously, does this guy want a punch up with EVERY car that dares overtake him?

I considered reaching for the Maglite and torching the guy some manners
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Harry Flashman

19,372 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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A quick tip for those of you that keep a maglite or other sort of weapon in the car. Don't use it unless he actually attacks you with a weapon and you have absolutely no way of safely retreating.

1) The reasonable force in self-defence argument won't work if you beat an unarmed man with what is, effectively, a nightstick.

2) if he disarms you and uses it on you, you will be in real trouble.

OP's action of driving away has to be the answer.

For the record, I do keep a large maglite under the passenger seat. It is there as an absolute last resort: I am besieged and people really want to hurt me. Even if someone carjacks me in my toy, I'll simply let them have the car and walk away. It has a tracker and is insured.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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SSBB said:
I'm sorry, but there has to be more to this. You are saying that the guy stopped and got out of his car in the middle of a major road, to have some fisticuffs with you, because you passed him on a dual carriageway?
Doesn't have to be more to it than that, unfortunately.

I had a similar thing happen to me, involving a driver of the same type of car. Merging lane, he had absolutely no idea I was there - or was conveniently ignoring the fact. I used the horn to alert him to my presence. He virtually skidded to a stop, got out and started remonstrating with me at my window, rude gestures, the lot.

I felt quite clever, knowing a mere toot of my little Clio horn had that impact.

lyonspride

Original Poster:

2,978 posts

156 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Harry Flashman said:
A quick tip for those of you that keep a maglite or other sort of weapon in the car. Don't use it unless he actually attacks you with a weapon and you have absolutely no way of safely retreating.

1) The reasonable force in self-defence argument won't work if you beat an unarmed man with what is, effectively, a nightstick.

2) if he disarms you and uses it on you, you will be in real trouble.

OP's action of driving away has to be the answer.
Question...... Not just for you, but for anyone/all.

If said aggressive individual is displaying threatening behaviour and your only exit it to drive through them, is this considered "reasonable force"?

Because when I drove off I think he might have shat himself (lol) when he realised he wasn't quite so tough and invincible outside his big tonka toy. There wasn't much gap between me and his car when I passed.

To back this up, there have been incidents locally (on the rough side of town) were small groups of youths have blocked roads and badly assaulted innocent drivers.
The general consensus at that time, was that you should just drive through them.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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lyonspride said:
Harry Flashman said:
A quick tip for those of you that keep a maglite or other sort of weapon in the car. Don't use it unless he actually attacks you with a weapon and you have absolutely no way of safely retreating.

1) The reasonable force in self-defence argument won't work if you beat an unarmed man with what is, effectively, a nightstick.

2) if he disarms you and uses it on you, you will be in real trouble.

OP's action of driving away has to be the answer.
Question...... Not just for you, but for anyone/all.

If said aggressive individual is displaying threatening behaviour and your only exit it to drive through them, is this considered "reasonable force"?

Because when I drove off I think he might have shat himself (lol) when he realised he wasn't quite so tough and invincible outside his big tonka toy. There wasn't much gap between me and his car when I passed.

To back this up, there have been incidents locally (on the rough side of town) were small groups of youths have blocked roads and badly assaulted innocent drivers.
The general consensus at that time, was that you should just drive through them.
If someone say's "I'm going to kill you" or words to that effect and you have grounds to believe they are willing and capable to fulfill this suggestion reasonable about of force goes out the window and by any means available defend your right to exist. If your only means of escape is to run the assailant over then do so. As soon as you are safe stop and report it to the Police and Ambulance service. Don't reverse back over them or stop immediately to offer first aid. They have threatened to kill you get a safe distance away and let people trained to deal with such risks do their job.

As for the use of a torch as a weapon. The only way you can do this legally is if the assailant is armed. The fact you have a potential weapon on your person is justification enough for someone to use the "I was only going to talk to him but I saw he had a weapon and defended myself" line of defense. Maglights are more trouble than they are worth, get one of those Million candle power ones and shine it in their eyes instead. They will be disorientated for long enough for you to legally restrain them until the Police arrive.

Vladimir

6,917 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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My torches (Fenix TK ones) have a strobe effect. If I actually have the presence of mind and am attacked, I plan to strobe the assailant and hope they are epileptic.

You never know.

Seriously though, IMO it's best NOT to carry any weapon. If one is pulled on you, run very quickly. Unless it's something useless like a baseball bat.

davemac250

4,499 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Tosh.

A maglite is not a weapon of offence.

If you are in genuine fear you can 'instant arm' and defend yourself.

It is the genuine fear part that matters. Exactly the same legislation that applies to police using batons. There is no legislation that allows officers to use a baton. There is legislation to allow carrying this made offensive weapon by officers. You would have to give justification of using the maglite, that would be down to a court to test if it came to it.

As long as you do not have your maglite 'just in case' then you are perfectly entitled to have one in your car.

Just like a wheel brace.