Why the British Jealousy(?) and negativity, RE cars?
Discussion
frosted said:
lyonspride said:
It's all about social conformity.....
If you don't drive a boring Eurobox, you alienate yourself from the 99% of the population that do.
Plus these days, your Eurobox MUST have the word "ECO" or "Green" or "tree friendly", else you'll be labelled as a dirty horribly pollutey person.
Your talking rubbish If you don't drive a boring Eurobox, you alienate yourself from the 99% of the population that do.
Plus these days, your Eurobox MUST have the word "ECO" or "Green" or "tree friendly", else you'll be labelled as a dirty horribly pollutey person.
Edited by lyonspride on Monday 30th April 16:08
frosted said:
Obviously there are decent people out there but I found most rich people to be proper **nts
Interesting. My experience is that one finds nice not_rich people and idiot not_rich people. And the same goes for the 'haves'. I've met some nice loaded people and some idiot loaded people.I'm not convinced there are more 'nasty'/'idiot' rich people than there are idiot not_rich people.
It's just people, innit.
bqf said:
martin84 said:
It may sound obvious but I think most rich people have an obsession with money to the point where they put it before everything else, which generally doesn't make for a nice personality.
What constitutes 'rich'?But I imagine 'rich' is relative.
tomw2000 said:
.....rich being relative is why I asked. A statement saying 'most rich people' obviously means something to the poster, but I suspect he hasn't met many rich people.I've found that since I picked up my Z4 a few weeks ago that people just don't get that you can get a reasonably nice car for relatively little if you know what you're doing.
The problem is that this resulted in the OH's mum(!) walking into her work in front of customers and having a go at her for being a 'snobby cow' after seeing a picture on facebook! The fact that it's my car and cost half as much as the OH's MINI seemed to be completely missed.
Luckily the OH is a lovely girl and seems to have fallen a very long way from the tree but she was pretty upset by that reaction.
The problem is that this resulted in the OH's mum(!) walking into her work in front of customers and having a go at her for being a 'snobby cow' after seeing a picture on facebook! The fact that it's my car and cost half as much as the OH's MINI seemed to be completely missed.
Luckily the OH is a lovely girl and seems to have fallen a very long way from the tree but she was pretty upset by that reaction.
swerni said:
We can't generalise about the parasitic free loading scum sucking this country dry, but seems our socialist friend feels he can about the rich.
PH, consistency matters
I think what he means to say is that rich people have an obsession with success, and frankly, I'm glad that is the case, or this country would be ruined. PH, consistency matters
Seems the only way it is acceptable to be come well off in this country is to either sell yourself to the media as a reality tv celebrity or win the lottery.
Working hard for a living, progressing in your career and looking after your money is totally frowned upon. How dare you work hard to earn all that money!
Everyone in this country seems to frown upon well off people yet would do anything to become one. Go figure...
Working hard for a living, progressing in your career and looking after your money is totally frowned upon. How dare you work hard to earn all that money!
Everyone in this country seems to frown upon well off people yet would do anything to become one. Go figure...
Marquis Rex said:
Trust the two raving socialists on the site (Martin and Xit Face) to come up with drivel and denial- you guys should become labour politicians.
You're an idiot and you don't know what socialist means.Marquis Rex said:
You can leave doors open and unlocked. It's telling that when my alloy wheels were delivered and I wasn't home they were left outside my house here- this wouldn't have happened Anywhere in the UK.
I left my door wide open all night the other week. Nothing happened.lyonspride said:
It's all about social conformity.....
If you don't drive a boring Eurobox, you alienate yourself from the 99% of the population that do.
Plus these days, your Eurobox MUST have the word "ECO" or "Green" or "tree friendly", else you'll be labelled as a dirty horribly pollutey person.
I've seen ECO on cars, never the other two. Can you give examples?If you don't drive a boring Eurobox, you alienate yourself from the 99% of the population that do.
Plus these days, your Eurobox MUST have the word "ECO" or "Green" or "tree friendly", else you'll be labelled as a dirty horribly pollutey person.
Edited by lyonspride on Monday 30th April 16:08
lyonspride said:
If you drive something "different" you get negative attention...... What's so "rubbish" about that?
The fact that it's not true.martin84 said:
Oh yes that horrible public sector full of evil people who teach our children and fix our patients in hospitals etc.
Damn them!
Scum, the lot of 'em.Damn them!
Dave Hedgehog said:
millions of third generation welfare spongers who have grown up knowing that no matter what they do there are no consequences...
That loud banging sound I heard as I read your post, was the sound of the nail being hit squarely on the head. We live in a society were the state has effectively absolved itself of the responsibility for dispensing appropriate punishments to fit the respective crimes. You cannot have a civilised society without some degree of FEAR existing amongst those with a tendancy towards crime. Currently, the penal system in the UK is an utter farse. The state tolerates continual re-offending by a relatively small percentage of people in society. WHY? Answer- MONEY. Successive UK governments have been increasingly reluctant to spend the requisite amount of money on law & order. Jailing people costs a large amount of money. Weak, spineless UK politicians increasingly hide behind 'liberal' arguments that, "Jail is not about punishment, but rehabilitation." What nonsense. Just take a look at the rate of re-offending- prison clearly does NOT rehabilitate criminals. For the most part, politicians exist in a bubble- they don't have to live in close proximity to thieving scum who make their lives a misery.I am all too well aware by virtue of my job, that there is little, if any fear of the consequences amongst the residivists. Being arrested and banged up in a cell for hours, is nothing more than a minor incovenience-an occupational hazard. The courts are held in complete contempt, criminals know they are VERY UNLIKELY to be handed a custodial sentence. Even if they do get a short term in prison, they automatically receive 50% remission off their sentence. The prisons are like hotels, three squares a day, free gym, pool, TV & PSP3's in the cells. Plenty of access to drugs, illicit mobile phones etc.
Many people live their lives in a bubble, for the most part, they have no real idea at the TRUE woeful state of British society. It is rotten to the core. We have a burgeoning underclass who milk the benefit system, and have no intention of seeking gainful employment. For the most part, most of these people are devoid of ANY moral values. Most of them do not even respect themselves, so how can we expect them to respect others? They have no concept of being part of a community, with a responsibility to others around them. Myopic fools like Gordon Brown refer to these people as being, "Excluded from society." The fact is, these people ACTIVELY CHOOSE to exclude themselves from society. They have no work ethic, no sense of responsibility and no values. Our benefits system offers the lazy & feckless with the opportunity to live off the state. We provide free housing, benefits galore, motability cars, an 'Army' of Social Workers are on standby to pander to the needs of the inadequate, morally bankrupt underclass. WE ARE INVESTING IN & REINFORCING FAILURE.
It's about time people in the UK woke up and smelt the coffee. The UK is one of the most unpleasant developed countries to reside in. The quality of life is garbage compared to many mainland European countries. We endure a huge Tax burden, ridiculously expensive housing, fuel & general cost of living. We are an over crowded little island- a rats nest- with a population more than TWICE the ideal given our land mass. We have pretty much the same population as France, but they have five times the land mass-far less crowding=Higher Quality Of Life.
Arrogant British politicians constantly crow that "WE" possess "The Best," healthcare system, Police Force- (sorry- 'service,' force is far too 'aggressive.') Armed Forces etc etc. The fact is we simply DO NOT. The NHS is falling apart at the seams, grossly inefficient, over burdened, the Police service has lost it's sense of direction and is grossly under resourced, hog tied with an unbelievable amount of red tape. The Armed Forces are now the smallest they have been for a century. The Royal Navy has no aircraft carriers, the surface fleet is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago. The British Army is TINY, totally over stretched, under resourced, over committed. Most of our institutions are living off a reputation for excellence they had many years ago. To put it bluntly, as a nation, WE ARE ALL FUR COAT AND NO KNICKERS!
It's about time British politicians & PEOPLE faced reality. British society is broken, a complete cesspit-anything goes, IE How many people on PH consider it perfectly acceptable to treat themselves to a couple of lines of coke on a Friday night out? Quite a few I suspect....Until we have a penal system that places the emphasis on PUNISHMENT, not 'REHABILITATION,' things will continue to deteriorate.
LAST ONE OUT THE UK- TURN THE LIGHTS OFF.
Edited by Pedmeister on Monday 30th April 17:54
XitUp said:
What a load of reactionary, Daily Mail, middle england b
ks.
Really? Is that the nest you can do!? Please feel free to challenge ANY of my points. Unlike you-I suspect, I actually deal with criminals who live live off the state everyday of my working life. I know what makes them tick. I know that for the most part, the residivists in our society have absolutely no fear, or respect for the Police, the Courts, or Prison. A night in the cells is an, 'inconvenience.' A court appearance is a, 'day out.' Prison? 'Easy life!' The vast majority of our criminals are born into benefit dependent backgrounds. WE ARE INVESTING IN FAILURE. It isn't "Daily Mail, middle England bks.ks," to resort to your innane, assine parlance- it is REALITY.martin84 said:
Yes someone who works with criminals every day is ideally placed to have a rounded balanced view of the 62million strong population.
Actually, I am perfectly placed to appreciate the REALITY of what goes on in the UK. I see the consequences of handing out unlimited state handouts, whilst asking for nothing in return from the recipients. EG I know of a family of SEVEN children- all funded by the state. Daddy is in prison, mummy is an alcoholic. The six children are separated and in hugely expensive care. The seventh child killed himself at 12. There is something fundementally WRONG with a country that funds families of SEVEN with state handouts. The benefit system actively encourages abuse, not responsibility. IE The more children these people produce, the more they receive in benefits. They also get bigger houses. No benefit system should fund & support families of seven. If you cannot afford a family, you should not have children. Don't expect the Tax Payer to fund it. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITYGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff