RE: Porsche plans four-seat mid-engined coupe
Discussion
Krikkit said:
I've got to disagree with you there - it looks better in the metal than pictures suggest, mostly because it's quite imposing, but it's still pretty a nasty thing to behold. Certainly not as nice as an XJ or Quattroporte by any stretch, even the pretty mediocre 7 series looks decent next to it.
Agreed, although frustratingly it wouldn't take much to improve it as it's clear where its ugliness stems from. The front end is too tall, the rear is too hunched.So, you replace the V-engines with flat-sixes, thus lowering the centre of gravity and frontal aspect, allowing for a lower bonnet line more along the lines of a 928 or 968. Then you rework it as two models - a saloon and an estate. The halfway-house hatchback leaves it looking too bloated to be a sleek saloon, too unresolved to be an estate.
Twincam16 said:
Been done before...
http://www.porschehire.com.au/
Just the estate version to sort
ThunderSpook said:
The Panamera is a fantastic looking car when it's on the road, big and graceful yet still sporty. It's a brilliant thing. It just doesn't take good pictures.
I was just about to write, 'Am I the only one who actually likes the Panmera?' - But clearly not!I used to see a chocolate brown one, with matching leather and on big alloys everyday when I lived in Chiswick. Sounds disgusting, but it really was something else to look at. Fabulous car in my opinion.
...Fully aware I am one of the minority with that
JohnoVR6 said:
'Am I the only one who actually likes the Panmera?' - But clearly not!
Not at all. I recall seeing them on road tests in the West of Ireland before their launch, in convoy with 911's, they looked awesome then and still look good today imo. Give me an n/a manual in any colour. PomBstard said:
Twincam16 said:
Been done before...
http://www.porschehire.com.au/
Just the estate version to sort
Oh, and Rinspeed have done an estate/van/pickup thingy:
So Porsche dip into history and resurrect their work on Audi RS2 and 20V Audi Quattro Coupe,
(many had RS2 or similar motors added) both had minimum of four seats, an excellent 20Valve 5 pot turbo, 6 speed manual and all wheel drive.
OK the cars' mechanical concept is now 20 years old but the cabin space and practicality of both remain good, not sure how mid engine/four seater would be practical and probably now an auto. My Previa is mid engined, good weight distribution and corners like a blancmange when hurrying) but a pig to service.
Or Porsche basically produce the present (ugly?) design in a modified shape/format.
I would have that a 959 mk2 version, (loved that first car) would be too expensive today and have limited sales?
I find the size of these so called 4 x 4 4/5 seaters quite overwhelming re driving practicality etc, they all seem too wide to fit parking bays and appear to scrub front tyres to pieces as the car stands still and power steering rams the wheels from lock to lock when stationery. But they grind out high speed miles and pass most of us in a dust cloud.
just my opinion and probably a load of cr...p
(many had RS2 or similar motors added) both had minimum of four seats, an excellent 20Valve 5 pot turbo, 6 speed manual and all wheel drive.
OK the cars' mechanical concept is now 20 years old but the cabin space and practicality of both remain good, not sure how mid engine/four seater would be practical and probably now an auto. My Previa is mid engined, good weight distribution and corners like a blancmange when hurrying) but a pig to service.
Or Porsche basically produce the present (ugly?) design in a modified shape/format.
I would have that a 959 mk2 version, (loved that first car) would be too expensive today and have limited sales?
I find the size of these so called 4 x 4 4/5 seaters quite overwhelming re driving practicality etc, they all seem too wide to fit parking bays and appear to scrub front tyres to pieces as the car stands still and power steering rams the wheels from lock to lock when stationery. But they grind out high speed miles and pass most of us in a dust cloud.
just my opinion and probably a load of cr...p
that is porsche 960....
Johnboy Mac said:
Not at all. I recall seeing them on road tests in the West of Ireland before their launch, in convoy with 911's, they looked awesome then and still look good today imo. Give me an n/a manual in any colour.
They are very badly proportioned and look more like a hunchback than the much maligned Crossfire. I usually see them and think "That looks like a nine el...urgh"
k me that car is hideously ugly Johnboy Mac said:
JohnoVR6 said:
'Am I the only one who actually likes the Panmera?' - But clearly not!
Not at all. I recall seeing them on road tests in the West of Ireland before their launch, in convoy with 911's, they looked awesome then and still look good today imo. Give me an n/a manual in any colour. In the flesh it's a good looking car.
OlberJ said:
High Class Evora is the (seemingly small) market here i think.
Why doesn't the 911 fill that market for Porsche (2+2 Sports/GT)?The difference between the 911 being "rear engined (and 2+2)" and the Cayman being "mid-engined (but no rear seats)" can only be a matter of inches to squeeze the engine in front of the rear axle.
I guess I just don't see "mid-engined" as a big enough selling point to be worth developing when you have the 911 and Panamera already.
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