RE: Gazoo shows 320hp GT 86
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That's quite restrained offering from Gazoo. Unlike the standard GT86, it's power poses a genuine threat to the the skin on my rice pudding remaining intact. Like
otolith said:
Besides which it would have the kind of fuel consumption and CO2 outputs which Toyota doesn't want ruining its corporate average in Europe and Subaru is desperate to get away from.
The modifications aren't even a consideration to the manufacturers on that front. The emissions from the standard car would stand as afar as taxation and BIK goes. Mitsubishi EVOs were the same.scholesy said:
Chickentonight said:
Just drooled on the keyboard and electrocuted my face :O ME WANT!!!!!!!!!
Wow, you electrocuted yourself on under 12v, that is pretty impressive :PAlso the keys are made out of fibreglass and questionably powdercoated pig iron; a 'meat only' kebab/pulled pork dispenser is a popular factory option.
Electrocution is a very real risk.
Nice looking car and I especially like the wheels and the stats.
300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.
All in I'm guessing you could buy a new one and do this for 10k or so and that's the problem it would end up circa £35k with no warranty.
New a 370z would then work out far cheaper although heavier, I'm sure it would be fairly easy(and cheaper) to put it on a diet and maintain an n/a engine.
I want a rwd coupe next and was hoping the base car would be sub 20k and a 250-300bhp one 25kish...........
As its not im opting for a rwd coupe with 340bhp, n/a, circa 1500kg and only £15-16k with manufacturers warranty.......z4m coupe. Job jobbed as they say and before anyone blabbers on about new old,etc some of the cars I have looked at have <20k miles and are immaculate and as I live in the real world the cost of ownership with the z4m coupe may actually work out cheaper than a standard gt86 and definitely cheaper than a modded one.
300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.
All in I'm guessing you could buy a new one and do this for 10k or so and that's the problem it would end up circa £35k with no warranty.
New a 370z would then work out far cheaper although heavier, I'm sure it would be fairly easy(and cheaper) to put it on a diet and maintain an n/a engine.
I want a rwd coupe next and was hoping the base car would be sub 20k and a 250-300bhp one 25kish...........
As its not im opting for a rwd coupe with 340bhp, n/a, circa 1500kg and only £15-16k with manufacturers warranty.......z4m coupe. Job jobbed as they say and before anyone blabbers on about new old,etc some of the cars I have looked at have <20k miles and are immaculate and as I live in the real world the cost of ownership with the z4m coupe may actually work out cheaper than a standard gt86 and definitely cheaper than a modded one.
GravelBen said:
Froomee said:
300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.
About the same as a classic Impreza STi in fact iain1970 said:
otolith said:
Besides which it would have the kind of fuel consumption and CO2 outputs which Toyota doesn't want ruining its corporate average in Europe and Subaru is desperate to get away from.
The modifications aren't even a consideration to the manufacturers on that front. The emissions from the standard car would stand as afar as taxation and BIK goes. Mitsubishi EVOs were the same.otolith said:
If you want something like this, it's going to make a lot more sense to modify the car yourself.
If Toyota or subaru were to sell a version like that as a factory car, it would be a problem. Modified aftermarket, even by your Toyota dealer, it isn't.Guvernator said:
Exactly 20 years "progress" to get back to exactly where we were. You'd think with all the modern developments made over the last two decades, it would be a piece of p*ss to make a light, cheap, RWD car with 300bhp and efficient to boot but apparently it's the hardest thing in the world.
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza. having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
wildman0609 said:
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza.
having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
binned the interiour?having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
carbon pannels?
wildman0609 said:
Guvernator said:
Exactly 20 years "progress" to get back to exactly where we were. You'd think with all the modern developments made over the last two decades, it would be a piece of p*ss to make a light, cheap, RWD car with 300bhp and efficient to boot but apparently it's the hardest thing in the world.
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza. having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
Add in delete sound deadening, ally belled discs, carbon prop, carbon roof, carbon panels, binned electric windows, thinner glass, etc. It's not hard.
i don't understand all the "this is what it should have been in the first place" comments. Wasn't the car originally designed to be fun and great handing rather than in need of a zillion BHP and fking 10 second 'ring lap times. Am I the only one who thinks it was quite a nice idea, just a nice light NA engine, handling focused and cheap? I mean, £25k for the NA model is perfect. This thing is gonna be like £40k. Still cheap but it seems like an obsession that every car has to be so power-focused, like it is the only measure of enjoyment. Do people whinge about the MX5 in the same way? Has to be twin turbo or GTFO? No, they wk on about it being the perfect PH car just the way it is!
chuntington101 said:
Would like to see some engine bay shot to see exactly how they are running this supercharger and turbo arangement. Could potencial be an upgrade for scvooby owners?.....
Chris.
Chris.
Image Source : http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63...
plenty more pics in that thread.
Stop the bus... (although I see Blown2CV has echoed the same sentiment)
I thought a month ago that the collective voice of Pistonheads decided that what we all wanted was a small, light, cheap to run, cheapish to buy, fun, drift happy, rwd coupe where out and out straight line performance wasn't that important. That any idiot who wanted straight line speed could buy a turbo hot hatch. That 200bhp was enough. Was 200bhp with fun handling not supposed to have people jumping out of their Porsches for a purer driving experience.
It's funny how quickly we can change our minds :-)
That's all.....
I thought a month ago that the collective voice of Pistonheads decided that what we all wanted was a small, light, cheap to run, cheapish to buy, fun, drift happy, rwd coupe where out and out straight line performance wasn't that important. That any idiot who wanted straight line speed could buy a turbo hot hatch. That 200bhp was enough. Was 200bhp with fun handling not supposed to have people jumping out of their Porsches for a purer driving experience.
It's funny how quickly we can change our minds :-)
That's all.....
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