RE: Gazoo shows 320hp GT 86

RE: Gazoo shows 320hp GT 86

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scholesy

143 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Chickentonight said:
Just drooled on the keyboard and electrocuted my face :O ME WANT!!!!!!!!!
Wow, you electrocuted yourself on under 12v, that is pretty impressive :P

iain1970

239 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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That's quite restrained offering from Gazoo. Unlike the standard GT86, it's power poses a genuine threat to the the skin on my rice pudding remaining intact. Like smile

otolith said:
Besides which it would have the kind of fuel consumption and CO2 outputs which Toyota doesn't want ruining its corporate average in Europe and Subaru is desperate to get away from.
The modifications aren't even a consideration to the manufacturers on that front. The emissions from the standard car would stand as afar as taxation and BIK goes. Mitsubishi EVOs were the same.

Dr G

15,177 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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scholesy said:
Chickentonight said:
Just drooled on the keyboard and electrocuted my face :O ME WANT!!!!!!!!!
Wow, you electrocuted yourself on under 12v, that is pretty impressive :P
This is Pistonheads. Real members' keyboards are powered by nuclear reactors and come complete with features such as the red bull cannon, automatic meme search, a macro button to rehash an old in-joke and automatic detection/crafty editing of bordeline sinbinnable comments.

Also the keys are made out of fibreglass and questionably powdercoated pig iron; a 'meat only' kebab/pulled pork dispenser is a popular factory option.

Electrocution is a very real risk.

Hoygo

725 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fittster said:
It's not been converted to FWD.

smile
Too bad,that puts me off.

But really do you know my daily drive is a RWD? wink (if your comment was based on my previous comments)

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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WANT!!!!!!

Froomee

1,424 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Nice looking car and I especially like the wheels and the stats.

300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.

All in I'm guessing you could buy a new one and do this for 10k or so and that's the problem it would end up circa £35k with no warranty.

New a 370z would then work out far cheaper although heavier, I'm sure it would be fairly easy(and cheaper) to put it on a diet and maintain an n/a engine.

I want a rwd coupe next and was hoping the base car would be sub 20k and a 250-300bhp one 25kish...........

As its not im opting for a rwd coupe with 340bhp, n/a, circa 1500kg and only £15-16k with manufacturers warranty.......z4m coupe. Job jobbed as they say smile and before anyone blabbers on about new old,etc some of the cars I have looked at have <20k miles and are immaculate and as I live in the real world the cost of ownership with the z4m coupe may actually work out cheaper than a standard gt86 and definitely cheaper than a modded one.

GravelBen

15,691 posts

230 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Froomee said:
300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.
About the same as a classic Impreza STi in fact hehe

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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GravelBen said:
Froomee said:
300+ bhp and 1280kg is impressive.
About the same as a classic Impreza STi in fact hehe
Exactly 20 years "progress" to get back to exactly where we were. You'd think with all the modern developments made over the last two decades, it would be a piece of p*ss to make a light, cheap, RWD car with 300bhp and efficient to boot but apparently it's the hardest thing in the world. rolleyes

Andy ap

1,147 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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love the front of it, remind anyone of this?

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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The mods are too expensive



The base car is too expensive



I don't like the styling


otolith

56,144 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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iain1970 said:
otolith said:
Besides which it would have the kind of fuel consumption and CO2 outputs which Toyota doesn't want ruining its corporate average in Europe and Subaru is desperate to get away from.
The modifications aren't even a consideration to the manufacturers on that front. The emissions from the standard car would stand as afar as taxation and BIK goes. Mitsubishi EVOs were the same.
Which is why I said;

otolith said:
If you want something like this, it's going to make a lot more sense to modify the car yourself.
If Toyota or subaru were to sell a version like that as a factory car, it would be a problem. Modified aftermarket, even by your Toyota dealer, it isn't.

wildman0609

885 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Guvernator said:
Exactly 20 years "progress" to get back to exactly where we were. You'd think with all the modern developments made over the last two decades, it would be a piece of p*ss to make a light, cheap, RWD car with 300bhp and efficient to boot but apparently it's the hardest thing in the world. rolleyes
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza.

having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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wildman0609 said:
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza.

having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
binned the interiour?

carbon pannels?

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Would like to see some engine bay shot to see exactly how they are running this supercharger and turbo arangement. Could potencial be an upgrade for scvooby owners?.....

Chris.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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wildman0609 said:
Guvernator said:
Exactly 20 years "progress" to get back to exactly where we were. You'd think with all the modern developments made over the last two decades, it would be a piece of p*ss to make a light, cheap, RWD car with 300bhp and efficient to boot but apparently it's the hardest thing in the world. rolleyes
its 20years of extra red tape and new standards cars have to meet now. its becoing very difficult to make a properly light car now. i'd rather be in a gt86 in crash than a classic imprezza.

having said that, how can they add a turbo, a supercharger and a roll cage and it still be the same weight as standard.
Orginal seats will be 20-30kg each. Wheels will be heavy. Fitting carbon buckets will save 30-40kg + forged wheels will save another 10-15kg. If they've used plastic for the bonnet or boot - that'll save another 5-10kg. Lightweight battery - 2-5kg. And that's the easy stuff.

Add in delete sound deadening, ally belled discs, carbon prop, carbon roof, carbon panels, binned electric windows, thinner glass, etc. It's not hard.

Blown2CV

28,819 posts

203 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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i don't understand all the "this is what it should have been in the first place" comments. Wasn't the car originally designed to be fun and great handing rather than in need of a zillion BHP and fking 10 second 'ring lap times. Am I the only one who thinks it was quite a nice idea, just a nice light NA engine, handling focused and cheap? I mean, £25k for the NA model is perfect. This thing is gonna be like £40k. Still cheap but it seems like an obsession that every car has to be so power-focused, like it is the only measure of enjoyment. Do people whinge about the MX5 in the same way? Has to be twin turbo or GTFO? No, they wk on about it being the perfect PH car just the way it is!

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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A bit OTT on the styling front, however tone down the wings and skirts a little and we'll end up with the car that I'd been hoping for.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I like the wing paperbag

StormLoaded

889 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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chuntington101 said:
Would like to see some engine bay shot to see exactly how they are running this supercharger and turbo arangement. Could potencial be an upgrade for scvooby owners?.....

Chris.


Image Source : http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63...
plenty more pics in that thread.

JamStar

48 posts

222 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Stop the bus... (although I see Blown2CV has echoed the same sentiment)

I thought a month ago that the collective voice of Pistonheads decided that what we all wanted was a small, light, cheap to run, cheapish to buy, fun, drift happy, rwd coupe where out and out straight line performance wasn't that important. That any idiot who wanted straight line speed could buy a turbo hot hatch. That 200bhp was enough. Was 200bhp with fun handling not supposed to have people jumping out of their Porsches for a purer driving experience.

It's funny how quickly we can change our minds :-)

That's all.....