RE: PH Blog: at home with some range

RE: PH Blog: at home with some range

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LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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It's an irrelevant consideration with the Mustang as it has all sorts of hissy fits trying to get fuel in the tank at all. Very rare to get a full fill so a top-up is a fact of life. 600 miles would need two....but then who cares, life's a journey not a destination according to the one true God....Steve Tyler. wink

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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monthefish said:
vinnie83 said:
monthefish said:
Just to comment on the above paragraph, my 320d coupe (which is quick enough - 8 secs to 60, and can overtake quite competently with a bit of planning) will easily see 700 miles out of a tank. My best is 800 with some careful (but not stupidly conservative) driving.

No hairshirts here!!
My '57 plate 320d coupe is averaging 41.4 mpg - this is about 70-80% motorway driving, over about 12k miles - which gives me between 550-600 miles per tank!

What mpg are you averaging to get 700 miles on average?
Computer says 55.4, which I think must be quite accurate when I do the maths:

60 litres = 60/4.5 gallons = 13.333 gallons
55.4 mpg * 13.333 gallons = 738 miles.

The driving is probably as good as it gets economy-wise - fairly constant 50-60 mph with few stop/starts and no major hills and no city/town driving. I'm sure the ecomnomy would deteriorate if there was more urban driving, or average speed was closer 60-70mph.

(I'm no eco-warrior BTW - this just helps my conscience of getting <20 mpg out of the Porsche hehe )
I love long-ranged cars too - I usually get 700 miles and between 49 to 52 mpg from my E91 320D Touring - and I am another fan of long-legged Porsches. Mine's a lot less valuable than the GT3 shown above, and a lot slower too being only around 300 hp, but it gets along smartly enough and does anything up to 500 miles at a time. (80 litre tank, 29-30 mpg easily achieved).


fozzymandeus

1,044 posts

146 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I don't get this.

My SL has a touring range of 500 miles.

ArtVandelay

6,689 posts

184 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I had it over 40 on that trip but it was soul destroying.

Don't need a diesel to get decent range.

russy01

4,693 posts

181 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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My s2000 would do 600miles if I had a 100 ltr tank. But personally I wouldnt want to put £145 of fuel in each time.

What's the damage filling this SLK up?

Kong

1,503 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I know we're all supposed to hate these sort of cars, but fuel is so expensive these days.

I'm driving 3000+ miles to Italy and back for the third time next month which includes a lot of motorway miles. The idea of 50mpg compared to 30mpg certainly appeals.

I'd like to see the Z4 with the 123d twin turbo engine - that would be a diesel sports car worth buying.

vsonix

3,858 posts

163 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Greg_D said:
griffdude said:
blueST said:
I love the idea of a mega-range GT. My in-laws have a house that is about a 650 mile drive from home. Whilst the journey is easily undertaken in a day, I have to stop for fuel at least once, and sometimes twice. Would love something that could do it non-stop cruising at 130kph.
An Alpina D3 will come pretty close to this range/speed combo. Plus the handling & grip is phenomenal.
i don't get this, do you honestly not need a leg stretch and a cup of coffee in 650 miles. I know i would and to fill the car up at the same time would be no hardship tbh
Surely it's a money thing not a 'how long before I need to stop' thing. With 97-99 costing the same as derv fuel give or take a penny or two per litre, 30-50% more range to a similar size tankful has to be a big plus. Also swish-looking dervs seem to have a much higher resale price than petrol equivalents. Has to make sense even if it does sound bus-like at times...

Numeric

1,397 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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A few years ago I'd have laughed this away as irrelevant - but these days I'm not so sure. The first thing to remember is that most people don't drive, they move from place to place, so for them this diesel version is perfect. But as I'll be stuck behind them most of the time, doesn't it make sense for me as well??

More and more I'm using the bikes for my speed fix and driving the car far more sensibly cos I just don't make any progress. Sure when I get the chance I love stringing it all together - but if I wanted something just for trundling round Surrey and getting to work?

Numeric

1,397 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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As for the range thing - ragged an Astra VXR (I was running it in and it seemed the best way)down to the Swiss Alps through Germany once and regularly saw single figures on the fuel, even had the range warning kick in with about half a tank showing, so ended up having to lift off a fair bit just to make some progress.

When I took a Rover 75 tourer with the BMW diesel down to Vienna from London I only stopped a couple of times for fuel - left London at 5:30am and was having dinner in Vienna at 7pm and the range of the car was a huge help in keeping up the average speed.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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vsonix said:
Surely it's a money thing not a 'how long before I need to stop' thing. With 97-99 costing the same as derv fuel give or take a penny or two per litre, 30-50% more range to a similar size tankful has to be a big plus.
Money is not something many people can ignore altogether, for sure but, yes, it is a "how long before I need to stop" thing. That's not because I do individual 700 mile journeys very often - I don't, and I would need to stop for a pee. It's when I am doing 100 or 200 mile journeys most days. I absolutely hate stopping for fuel. I don't like the waste of time. On any given journey I would rather not have to stop to refuel. if I am forced to refuel once a week, that is a lot better than having to refuel three times a week.

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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BETTER DEAD THAN DISEASEL!













(Except I rather like the Audi A5 3.0 TDI quattro S-Line Coupe!)

revirdtset

11 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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In a petrol-engined sports car of this sort, you'd often expect to get no more than 275-300 miles of touring range before the fuel gauge dropped sufficiently low for you to search out a fuel pump.

In the SLK 250 CDI I zero'd the trip having brimmed the tank, and the car's electronic brain was still giving me a remaining range of 130miles after 465 miles of driving.
But... But... that's no sports car eek

I don't mind to stop every 350 KM with my Exige S1. Good opportunity for getting cold drinks, checking the oil and chatting with some 'bella machina' kind of people at the fuel station cool

However, it might make sense for most of the SLKs that are not driven 'sporty' anyway... (as long as I don't have to drive one, I'm fine laugh )

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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"I don't mind to stop every 350 KM with my Exige S1."

You mean it'll actually do 350 km without anything falling off? That must be a first for Lotus! biggrin

NickJC

15 posts

144 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Monty Python said:
Sorry - diesel engines should not be put in convertibles. If you want to drive around listening to the noise of a diesel engine, buy a tractor.
+1

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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nickwilcock said:
"I don't mind to stop every 350 KM with my Exige S1."

You mean it'll actually do 350 km without anything falling off? That must be a first for Lotus! biggrin
rolleyes

mattlad

261 posts

165 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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johnpeat said:
Having been busy with a project very local to me, I've just realise that 600mile range in my car's fuel tank would mean I'd not have been to a petrol station since - erm - last November...

At least 2 fuel stations around here have closed in that time - could have been a shock!!
The rate at which fuel stations are closing you'll probably need a 600 mile range between refills!rofl

matthias73

2,883 posts

150 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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LuS1fer said:
It's an irrelevant consideration with the Mustang as it has all sorts of hissy fits trying to get fuel in the tank at all. Very rare to get a full fill so a top-up is a fact of life. 600 miles would need two....but then who cares, life's a journey not a destination according to the one true God....Steve Tyler. wink
I'm pretty sure the two of us have discussed this before, but anyway.

Try turning the nozzle upside down.

(If my memory serves me correctly you are going to reply saying that you've tried it it no avail)

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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matthias73 said:
I'm pretty sure the two of us have discussed this before, but anyway.

Try turning the nozzle upside down.

(If my memory serves me correctly you are going to reply saying that you've tried it it no avail)
Correct. The only effective method I have found is to run it almost dry and it will then take a good capacity before clicking incessantly ut it can be sphinster-flickering if you don't know the nearest petrol station. Fuelling first thing in the morning also helps before it's been hopelessly sloshed round.