I just don't know which way to go with my next car
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Victoria VW said:
I'm ashamed to admit that the VAG info is news to me. So most of the time it's as a front wheel drive and only switches if you lose grip?
X-type is probably a bit on the big side to be honest.
I wouldn't be ashamed. Personally I think I've wasted a lot of my life reading pointless trivia.X-type is probably a bit on the big side to be honest.
Well yes. But on the plus sides are economy and it will still offer more traction than a car without (but crucially it will not offer more grip which is way many will suggest you consider your try choice).
Why don't you try a test drive in the wet and see how you get on? An S3 for example is known to be a bit of a clinical drive but is a very nice car with no traction issues.
You can, if you're so inclined, also modify it to adjust the bias to 40:60 / 50:50 (or whatever) should you feel the need. Although I think that sort of thing is more for the track.
Also I'd rule out the Mk5 R32. Sounds fantastic but it's effectively a fat mk5 GTi (which is a great car if you're going down the FWD route).
Edited by Prof Prolapse on Wednesday 20th June 14:02
Cupramax said:
doogz said:
Are modern Haldex systems actually FWD til they detect slip?
Another user has just mentioned they're a 90/10 split, I thought the more modern versions were not quite, but much nearer 50/50? They're a much better system than they used to be.
Entirely dependant on what revision...Another user has just mentioned they're a 90/10 split, I thought the more modern versions were not quite, but much nearer 50/50? They're a much better system than they used to be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction
So a 2012 Audi TT may have an early generation Haldex fitted...
Prof Prolapse said:
Also I'd rule out the Mk5 R32. Sounds fantastic but it's effectively a fat mk5 GTi (which is a great car if you're going down the FWD route).
Yes that is the kind of bad thing I've been reading recently which is making me question the R32. It's a shame as it's always been a 'one day I will' car for me.Victoria VW said:
It's not something I would have thought of a few years ago, but I've spent the past 4 winters now having uneasy drives to work and having driven the OH's 4WD it was so much more reassuring.
I know the tax is astronomical on the Brera, so disappointing.
I will research all the others you've mentioned thank you.
Reassuring how? And have you tried winter tyres on your car, or even all-season tyres? Unless you're way out in the sticks or have steep hills to climb tyres are probably more important than AWD.I know the tax is astronomical on the Brera, so disappointing.
I will research all the others you've mentioned thank you.
Victoria VW said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Also I'd rule out the Mk5 R32. Sounds fantastic but it's effectively a fat mk5 GTi (which is a great car if you're going down the FWD route).
Yes that is the kind of bad thing I've been reading recently which is making me question the R32. It's a shame as it's always been a 'one day I will' car for me.Bill said:
Reassuring how? And have you tried winter tyres on your car, or even all-season tyres? Unless you're way out in the sticks or have steep hills to climb tyres are probably more important than AWD.
There is a good chance that an imminent house move would put me out of the city and into 4WD territoryVictoria VW said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Also I'd rule out the Mk5 R32. Sounds fantastic but it's effectively a fat mk5 GTi (which is a great car if you're going down the FWD route).
Yes that is the kind of bad thing I've been reading recently which is making me question the R32. It's a shame as it's always been a 'one day I will' car for me.If you want AWD buy that as well. At the end of the day it will offer more traction than a car without all other things being equal. Tyres really are the biggest issue though.
Victoria VW said:
Bill said:
Reassuring how? And have you tried winter tyres on your car, or even all-season tyres? Unless you're way out in the sticks or have steep hills to climb tyres are probably more important than AWD.
There is a good chance that an imminent house move would put me out of the city and into 4WD territory
Victoria VW said:
There is a good chance that an imminent house move would put me out of the city and into 4WD territory
Fair enough, tyre choice is still important though and I'd hold off on the car purchase until you know for certain what you need. You don't (well, I wouldn't) want the compromises that go with 4x4 ownership unnecessarily.Victoria VW said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Also I'd rule out the Mk5 R32. Sounds fantastic but it's effectively a fat mk5 GTi (which is a great car if you're going down the FWD route).
Yes that is the kind of bad thing I've been reading recently which is making me question the R32. It's a shame as it's always been a 'one day I will' car for me.BTW i've also had a 07 STI (Hawkeye) and that will be the best drivers car of all of them. By a very long way. I chose that over an R32 the first time I looked
Edited by Ved on Wednesday 20th June 14:31
Victoria VW said:
I did a search on the forums on here and struggled to find anything positive. I know I need to drive one myself.
Personally I'd drive one myself before being put off by the opinions of people who probably haven't been near one!I had a mark 5 R32 and it was a very capable car and nice to drive. The engine sounds and goes great although admittedly mpg is not wonderful.
The bad winter we had before last certainly proved to me it was very sure footed in the snow as it never got me stranded Haldex system or not.
Get one registered before April 2006 and the road fund licence is more realistic also.
Victoria VW said:
It's not permanent 4WD either and definitely doesn't feel as planted as the Land Rover did.
Oh yes it is! Like the Mazda 6 MPS some torque is always transmitted to both axles except when the handbrake is applied.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWGq1B8C84
It's certainly no Land Rover, but I suspect the off-road performance will be adequate for your needs and the on-road handling is vastly superior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuCygTbiqYY&fea...
Caulkhead said:
Oh yes it is! Like the Mazda 6 MPS some torque is always transmitted to both axles except when the handbrake is applied.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWGq1B8C84
It's certainly no Land Rover, but I suspect the off-road performance will be adequate for your needs and the on-road handling is vastly superior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuCygTbiqYY&fea...
Really? Well that's not what we were told and not how it feels either. I know it's not surprising that the garage got it wrong but you'd think they'd know! Maybe it's just that nothing will feel as good as the Disco did. I swear I don't go a day without hearing "if I still had the Disco..."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWGq1B8C84
It's certainly no Land Rover, but I suspect the off-road performance will be adequate for your needs and the on-road handling is vastly superior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuCygTbiqYY&fea...
I'm thinking of setting up a swear box for it.
Ved said:
Having driven both and chose the R32 i'd say that's not quite correct as the engine is completely different in delivery, the ride is extremely good and there is a lot more standard kit in it as well. Plus it's not a 4-pot so does stand out a bit more too. Out of the gates they are almost identical on performance but having two extra driving wheels does make a noticeable difference.
BTW i've also had a 07 STI (Hawkeye) and that will be the best drivers car of all of them. By a very long way. I chose that over an R32 the first time I looked
I have been looking at a WRX rather than an STI and for comparable age and mileage they are approximately half the price of the R32.BTW i've also had a 07 STI (Hawkeye) and that will be the best drivers car of all of them. By a very long way. I chose that over an R32 the first time I looked
Edited by Ved on Wednesday 20th June 14:31
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