Cars you didn't know existed...

[B17NNS]

jamiebae said:

Yup, for a similar example look at the Ram ProMaster. Also, 3.X litre V6 engines are so cheap in the USA that a 2.0 diesel would sell at a higher price, while most customers would consider it inadequately small and underpowered.

A 3.6l 280bhp Ducato

[soxboy]

B17NNS said:

jamiebae said:

Yup, for a similar example look at the Ram ProMaster. Also, 3.X litre V6 engines are so cheap in the USA that a 2.0 diesel would sell at a higher price, while most customers would consider it inadequately small and underpowered.

A 3.6l 280bhp Ducato

According to Car and Driiver it does 0-60 in 8.1 seconds. It also states 'a 174hp turbo diesel four is a pricey option'.

[jamiebae]

soxboy said:

According to Car and Driiver it does 0-60 in 8.1 seconds. It also states 'a 174hp turbo diesel four is a pricey option'.

They build millions of V6 engines to go in pickups as well as cars, so the economies of scale are gigantic and make European diesels pale into insignificance. Also, Americans only really drive automatics which don't deal well with torquey Diesel engines unless they're quite expensive.

[Steamer]

Plinth said:

Steamer said:

Plinth said:

I had a Marcos XP when I was 5 years old....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corgi-Juniors-Growlers-M...

And me - Mine was white... looked like a rocket ship compared to my other cars of that era (I'm guessing around 1984 ish)

I had an orange one - I thought (at the time) it was a ficticious car - never realised until many years later there was a real one...
Oh, the folly of youth...

...so did I until today

Although in my defense it wasnt at the forefront of my toy car collection all those years ago, and it wasnt until I saw that ebay advert today that I'd even remembered having the toy version.

[GroundEffect]

Matt-il77s said:

It's a Ford Transit, but it's the American one, which comes as standard with a 3.7 V6 petrol engine, which I never knew

You can buy with the Ford GT family 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 too

310PS and 540Nm!

A Puma or new Panther diesel is as expensive an engine to buy.....

[blearyeyedboy]

Hub said:

blearyeyedboy said:

Actually... I fancy a Volvo 360 reboot. A 480 reboot might be pretty neat too.

The C30 was sort of a 480 reboot? The 480 itself being a semi P1800es reboot!

Anyway my parents and grandparents had several Volvo 340s between them when I was younger (actually I count a total of 6!) so I have a weird soft spot too - 360 GLT only though!

I was going to reply (and deleted) something along the lines of "nonsense", until I googled an image of the P1800ES tailgate. I knew it existed but not the carry over tailgate feature between that, the 480 and the C30. Thanks for having me something new!

[Zad]

GroundEffect said:

Matt-il77s said:

It's a Ford Transit, but it's the American one, which comes as standard with a 3.7 V6 petrol engine, which I never knew

You can buy with the Ford GT family 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 too

310PS and 540Nm!

A Puma or new Panther diesel is as expensive an engine to buy.....

You can also get a Ford Fusion (i.e. Mondeo) 2.7 V6 twin turbo. 325bhp 380 lb ft, 4WD.

[Truckosaurus]

Turning the thread topic about face to "Cars you didn't know no longer existed", I have just realised that Chrysler no longer exist in the UK. I guess there wasn't a market for rebadged Lancias after all.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Chrysler no longer exist in the UK pretty much because Lancia no longer exist

I think you can still buy a Ypsilon in Italy, but that's it

[Frimley111R]

HTP99 said:

Matt-il77s said:

Fiat Idea

Looked small, about the size of a Picanto, wonder why it never caught on

This was Fiat's, Renault Modus or Vauxhall Meriva; IIRC it was quite expensive, hence why it was a flop.

Yep, also it just wasn't that good and came with bland looks. Renault, and particularly Vauxhall, with the Meriva, did a much better job. There was minimal promotion of it too which meant most people simply never new it existed.

[LuS1fer]

Hugo a Gogo said:

Chrysler no longer exist in the UK pretty much because Lancia no longer exist

I think you can still buy a Ypsilon in Italy, but that's it

Yes and the site has a real grasp of irony - https://www.lancia.com/

I also looked at Chrysler's website and the only website options for Europe are Azerbaijan, Iceland and Russia.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Frimley111R said:

HTP99 said:

Matt-il77s said:

Fiat Idea

Looked small, about the size of a Picanto, wonder why it never caught on

This was Fiat's, Renault Modus or Vauxhall Meriva; IIRC it was quite expensive, hence why it was a flop.

Yep, also it just wasn't that good and came with bland looks. Renault, and particularly Vauxhall, with the Meriva, did a much better job. There was minimal promotion of it too which meant most people simply never new it existed.

there were loads as Taxis in Italy

FIAT at one point were producing loads of MPVs, they had the Idea, the Multipla, the Ulysse, the Scudo, the Doblo, the Qubo vans all in MPV form all available at the same time

[sparkyhx]

poing said:

viscountdallara said:

MarshPhantom said:

Anyone know if this is happening? A 500 style reboot of the old Fiat 127.



Looks good

Does it come with a quartic steering wheel ??

That picture has been doing the rounds since at least 2014 so they don't seem to be rushing into it. Shame, I'd seriously consider buying that.

ETA: 2013 in fact http://www.designboom.com/design/a-tribute-to-pio-...

Edited by poing on Tuesday 6th June 22:03

nice that aparet from the corporate front end. not a fan of the latest fiat front end style

[djt100]

sparkyhx said:

nice that aparet from the corporate front end. not a fan of the latest fiat front end style

That looks like an Allegro !

[Pothole]

Ford Taunus Transit. like this

[BarbaricAvatar]

Obviously i knew Volvo 360's existed, but i didn't know anything about this one's existence:



The 360 GLT RSX2. Saw a Swiss-stickered one out in the wild on the M5 approaching Bristol today, with body graphics (which is what drew my gaze). Thanks to pooey smartphones taking too many seconds to unlock and find the camera, i wasn't quick enough to get a photo.
It's a superhot GLT, is it?!

[wildcat45]

What did they do? Put a B23 Turbo intro it?

We had 360 GLTs back in the 1980s. I remember them as great cars. The 440 Turbo that replaced out last 360 was rubbish by comparison.

I always liked the GLE saloons. In 1986 they made a special edition with leather air con and Ocean Blue (219) paint.

I only learnt recently of a 340 Sport model made before the 360s with a B19 lump in it.

[lucido grigio]

Pothole said:

Ford Taunus Transit. like this

I only found out these existed after seeing one at Ford Heritage in March.

[Fast Bug]

Didn't they do a twin carbed sporty Volvo 340/360 for Europe?

[ajprice]

Ssangyong Tivoli XLV estate. I knew of the hatchback Tivoli, I didn't know they made an estate version. Now that I've seen one, I want to forget about it so that I don't know it exists again...



This picture makes it look sort of ok, but seeing a basic white one in a car park, the rear just looks weird. Odd shaped lights and creases in odd directions.