Cars you didn't know existed...

[Hugo a Gogo]

CanAm said:

boyse7en said:

Most of the drag on a vehicle is created by the vortex at the rear of the vehicle. Although frontal area is also important, it is not the be-all and end-all of aerodynamic efficiency

Well as the total aero drag is frontal area X drag coefficient, I would say that it is. Unless by that you mean the shape of the front.

Not quite

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/shaped....

[Hugo a Gogo]

CanAm said:

boyse7en said:

Most of the drag on a vehicle is created by the vortex at the rear of the vehicle. Although frontal area is also important, it is not the be-all and end-all of aerodynamic efficiency

Well as the total aero drag is frontal area X drag coefficient, I would say that it is. Unless by that you mean the shape of the front.

Not quite

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/shaped....

[saaby93]

Hugo a Gogo said:

CanAm said:

boyse7en said:

Most of the drag on a vehicle is created by the vortex at the rear of the vehicle. Although frontal area is also important, it is not the be-all and end-all of aerodynamic efficiency

Well as the total aero drag is frontal area X drag coefficient, I would say that it is. Unless by that you mean the shape of the front.

Not quite

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/shaped....

what about the proximity effect of stationary ground

[Hugo a Gogo]

Yes

[aka_kerrly]

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

[Mark-C]

aka_kerrly said:

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

That's just how commodity cars were back then before everything came with big alloys and rubber band tyres as a status symbol

[AnneTeak]

Citroen ZX Volcane?



Hard to find sources to back up the claim, but it's believed to be the first diesel 'hot' hatch!

Also available at the time in 1.9 petrol and later a 2.0 version.

Try finding one now (how many left reckons 11 petrols and 34 diesels, down from 3k and 5k in 2001)!

Edited by AnneTeak on Friday 17th May 10:10

[Matt Cup]

Didn’t realise the volcane was diesel, I thought they used the mi16 unit.

[Scrump]

I had a ZX volcane diesel back in the day. Bought because I often visited a gas terminal and petrol cars were banned which meant a long walk. At the time the engine was a revelation for a diesel.
It was mechanically similar to a 306 dTurbo (I recall) but rarer.
Kept it for a few years, put lots of miles on it, taking it up to about 170k miles without issue. I sold it for almost what I paid for it.
Mine was similar to the one in the picture but it had clear fog lights (one of which was broken).

[Mark-C]

So this talk of the Citroen ZX led me (via Wiki) to the discovery it was licensed to China which gave us the DongFeng-Citroen Fukang Pickup ... which is absolutely something I didn't know existed!

[Matt Cup]

Mark-C said:

So this talk of the Citroen ZX led me (via Wiki) to the discovery it was licensed to China which gave us the DongFeng-Citroen Fukang Pickup ... which is absolutely something I didn't know existed!

“What pick-up? “ “It’s a Fukang Pickup!”

[can't remember]

I was looking on KaKa for a filter compatibility and came across this.





Apparently the AX wasn't flimsy enough so they decided to remove as much metal as possible and replace with Kinder egg spec plastic.

[Mammasaid]

That does a disservice to Kinder eggs!

[aka_kerrly]

Mark-C said:

aka_kerrly said:

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

That's just how commodity cars were back then before everything came with big alloys and rubber band tyres as a status symbol

I'm old enough to have owned/driven plenty of cars that came on 13 inch wheels with 175/60 tyres and when fitting 15s with 195/45 tyres was considered a hardcore upgrade

[Butter Face]

aka_kerrly said:

Mark-C said:

aka_kerrly said:

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

That's just how commodity cars were back then before everything came with big alloys and rubber band tyres as a status symbol

I'm old enough to have owned/driven plenty of cars that came on 13 inch wheels with 175/60 tyres and when fitting 15s with 195/45 tyres was considered a hardcore upgrade

Pah, I remember having 10 inch wheels and fitting 13's was considered hardcore

[saaby93]

Butter Face said:

aka_kerrly said:

Mark-C said:

aka_kerrly said:

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

That's just how commodity cars were back then before everything came with big alloys and rubber band tyres as a status symbol

I'm old enough to have owned/driven plenty of cars that came on 13 inch wheels with 175/60 tyres and when fitting 15s with 195/45 tyres was considered a hardcore upgrade

Pah, I remember having 10 inch wheels and fitting 13's was considered hardcore

Wasnt 13 a step too far?
couldnt you get 12s

[Butter Face]

saaby93 said:

Butter Face said:

aka_kerrly said:

Mark-C said:

aka_kerrly said:

Fast Bug said:

Worthy of this thread?


Precursor to the Evoque

Another close but not quite from Rover. That is some comically large arch gap giving quite the faux by four off road appearance.

That's just how commodity cars were back then before everything came with big alloys and rubber band tyres as a status symbol

I'm old enough to have owned/driven plenty of cars that came on 13 inch wheels with 175/60 tyres and when fitting 15s with 195/45 tyres was considered a hardcore upgrade

Pah, I remember having 10 inch wheels and fitting 13's was considered hardcore

Wasnt 13 a step too far?
couldnt you get 12s

13's were for the hardcore, 12's were for the wannabe badboys!

[LuS1fer]

aka_kerrly said:

I'm old enough to have owned/driven plenty of cars that came on 13 inch wheels with 175/60 tyres and when fitting 15s with 195/45 tyres was considered a hardcore upgrade

When I was alas, an upgrade was from bendy crossplies to radial tyres. My hardcore upgrade on my A40 was 5.5" banded steel wheels wearing superwide 165/70 X 13s. Luckily, the suspension lowered itself, over time.

[Fast Bug]

Butter Face said:

Pah, I remember having 10 inch wheels and fitting 13's was considered hardcore

I remember working at Vauxhall and we had a Calibra come in for new tyres on aftermarket 18" wheels. We all thought they were the size of dustbin lids

[Matt-il77s]

Don't see many of these about, Meriva VXR.



Looks to be based off the Corsa C but has the 180BHP 1.6T engine from the Corsa D VXR.

0-60 was 7.9s which doesn't seem that great considering the 1.8 N/A engine from the Corsa C Sri had a 0-60 of 8s?