Cars you didn't know existed...

[Dapster]

21st Century Man said:

LuS1fer said:

Orion/Belmont era

That used to really annoy me back in the day. A car might be available as a 3dr hatch, 5dr hatch, 3dr estate, 5 dr estate, but the 4dr saloon was given a different name and treated as an entirely different model. WTF for ???

Dacia do this currently, for some reason the Sandero estate is called a Logan.

Which in turn would lead to the baffling situation of the 5 door estate version of the hatch called the [hatch name] "estate" and an estate version of the 4 door saloon called the [saloon name] estate.

Case in point, the mark 4 Golf spawned the Bora saloon, and thereafter there was an estate version of both! it's not just a badge job, they're different in design although essentially the same car.

[Gompo]

lowdrag said:

Still a couple around here I see. And in good condition.

You see a couple being driven around? Awesome. Probably owned by the same person, I dont think I've ever seen one..

[anonymous-user]

Dapster said:

21st Century Man said:

LuS1fer said:

Orion/Belmont era

That used to really annoy me back in the day. A car might be available as a 3dr hatch, 5dr hatch, 3dr estate, 5 dr estate, but the 4dr saloon was given a different name and treated as an entirely different model. WTF for ???

Dacia do this currently, for some reason the Sandero estate is called a Logan.

Which in turn would lead to the baffling situation of the 5 door estate version of the hatch called the [hatch name] "estate" and an estate version of the 4 door saloon called the [saloon name] estate.

Case in point, the mark 4 Golf spawned the Bora saloon, and thereafter there was an estate version of both! it's not just a badge job, they're different in design although essentially the same car.

I think that is because the Golf hatch in the US is called a Rabbit (for some reason) and therefore it's easier to make the bigger selling Jetta/Bora (again for some reason saloons/sedans more popular there) into an 'station wagon' retain the Bora headlights and badges. Its almost as if they think the yanks are stupid...

[soxboy]

Bora estate, that's one I didn't know exist.

Someone in my village has brought over with them from the US a Jetta estate, same as the Golf V, but VW called it the Jetta 'wagon' in the US as the model name had more value over there.

[Castrol for a knave]

LuS1fer said:

saaby93 said:

A saloon Tipo
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

He means the old Tipo.
From the gopping Orion/Belmont era when they glued boots on hatchbacks and filled the joint.

Is it taking a st?

[Dapster]

YouTalkinToMe said:

I think that is because the Golf hatch in the US is called a Rabbit (for some reason) and therefore it's easier to make the bigger selling Jetta/Bora (again for some reason saloons/sedans more popular there) into an 'station wagon' retain the Bora headlights and badges. Its almost as if they think the yanks are stupid...

That would make sense but the Rabbit became the Golf in the US eventually, and according to Wkki...

Wikki said:

In Europe, the estate version of the Bora was sometimes sold as part of the Golf line, either in addition to or instead of the Bora. Other than different front bumpers, fenders, headlights, and hood, the cars were identical. In some countries, both Golf Variant and Bora Variant were sold together.

Nuts!

[ajprice]

YouTalkinToMe said:

I think that is because the Golf hatch in the US is called a Rabbit (for some reason) and therefore it's easier to make the bigger selling Jetta/Bora (again for some reason saloons/sedans more popular there) into an 'station wagon' retain the Bora headlights and badges. Its almost as if they think the yanks are stupid...

Then they get modified to put a Golf front on a Jetta/Bora


or a Jetta/Bora front on a Golf

[BFleming]

foxbody-87 said:

There’s the Fiat Tempra turbo, sort of a saloon Tipo. I’d post a pic but I’ve had a software update and don’t know how to save pictures.

The Tempra Turbo was a Brazil only coupe model IIRC. The rest of us got a 'regular' 4 door Tempra - and the huge 5 door estate (Weekend) too.


It always reminded me of the Seat Cordoba coupe...


On the subject of boots welded on to hatchbacks, it's not something the UK ever understood - a lot of places in Europe preferred a boot to a hatch, so that's why the manufacturers did it.
Yummy, right?

[ElectricSoup]

I always prefer the saloon variants, but then I'm a bit foreign so not to be trusted I suppose.

[Evercross]

V10 SPM said:

Dragon Motors Astero 3128

I googled that and it led me to this. I give you the MG Hector....



I cannot think of a more appropriate name for such an ugly contraption.

[AnneTeak]

Aston Martin Virage Shooting Brake
Six produced at a cost of £165,000.





Aston Martin Lagonda Virage Shooting Brake
Two five door variants produced (not sure this really counts as production however!)

[soxboy]

AnneTeak said:

Aston Martin Virage Shooting Brake
Six produced at a cost of £165,000.

With Renault 21 estate (or 'Savannah' to give it it's proper name) rear lights.

[talksthetorque]

LuS1fer said:

I said that out loud, there was a puff of smoke and the girlfriend disappeared....

This amused me more than it should.

[tog]

Does that six total include both two and four door? I prefer the four door.

[pigeyman]

Cadillac BLS





Credit to Chris Parker on one of the UK Saab Owners Groups. I wasn't aware of the BLS until he listed his 1.9 TTiD Estate model for sale about a week ago.

Apparently it was Cadillac's attempt at entering the UK market, so they used GM's 9-3 as a platform. As far as I'm aware the BLS was only produced them from 2007-2009. They made a total mess of the dealer side of things and ended up throwing in the towel all together. As a result it's quite a rare car here in the UK.

Edited by pigeyman on Wednesday 18th December 11:09

[donkmeister]

designforlife said:

I like that, they look pretty sweet with the roof down too-

I saw one of those maybe 10 years ago, either in Brugge or Amsterdam. Sounded lovely but when I looked into them back in Blighty they were surprisingly expensive at the time.

[ajprice]

donkmeister said:

designforlife said:

I like that, they look pretty sweet with the roof down too-

I saw one of those maybe 10 years ago, either in Brugge or Amsterdam. Sounded lovely but when I looked into them back in Blighty they were surprisingly expensive at the time.

3 for sale for £17-30k on autotrader now.



Top one is modded with alloys and bright red leather, middle is LPG converted, bottom looks standard.

[Steamer]

soxboy said:

AnneTeak said:

Aston Martin Virage Shooting Brake
Six produced at a cost of £165,000.

With Renault 21 estate (or 'Savannah' to give it it's proper name) rear lights.

Those are the fellas!

I first though RangeRover P38 - but too early, then Renault 19... But Savannah is probably much more likely.

I love an extortionately priced parts bin special

[BFleming]

Steamer said:

soxboy said:

AnneTeak said:

Aston Martin Virage Shooting Brake
Six produced at a cost of £165,000.

With Renault 21 estate (or 'Savannah' to give it it's proper name) rear lights.

Those are the fellas!

I first though RangeRover P38 - but too early, then Renault 19... But Savannah is probably much more likely.

I love an extortionately priced parts bin special

Or the Renault Nevada as it was known outside the UK!

[Dapster]

I saw one of those at Pontins of all places





According to this article it was 1 of 3 factory commissioned Coupe Shooting Brakes worth knocking on for £400k.

http://thesteepletimes.com/the-wire/a-smoking-asto...