Cars you didn't know existed...

Cars you didn't know existed...

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NomduJour

19,156 posts

260 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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tog said:
Yes, that's the one. Before then I remember it being advertised for sale around 2001/2 with a London dealer. I was working for a regional press agency at the time and enquired about photographing it for the popular press but the dealer wasn't keen. Price was POA but I think far less than build cost.
It’s still around - saw it on Chelsea Bridge Road not so long ago.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Doofus said:
soxboy said:
There looks to be quite a lot of Peugeot 406 in each of those.
Pininfarina innit.
Owned by Mahindra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pininfarina
Was the Volvo V70 the Pininacle?

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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saaby93 said:
Doofus said:
soxboy said:
There looks to be quite a lot of Peugeot 406 in each of those.
Pininfarina innit.
Owned by Mahindra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pininfarina
Was the Volvo V70 the Pininacle?
confused

Pininfarina has a long and illustrious past. Not sure what makes Mahindra's ownership relevant.

MadmanO/T People

899 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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ajprice said:
Oldsmobile Firenza https://poconos.craigslist.org/ctd/d/kearny-1988-o...




US market, based on the same 'J body' platform as the mk2 Vauxhall Cavalier. It came up on a Facebook page, I thought the doors looked a bit like the Cavalier and Wikipedia confirmed it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_J_platform

You could get the Oldsmobile with a 2.8 V6 though, the top Cavalier engine was the 2.0 4 cylinder. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Firenza
I'm afraid I must correct you on your claim the 2.0 litre four was the Chevrolet Cavalier's top engine. It was not.

V6 engines WERE available in the Chevrolet Cavalier, beginning in 1984. The 2.8 V6 was the standard engine in the performance oriented Cavalier Z24 and was available as an option in lower trims. The 2.8 remained available as late as 1994. In addition, a larger 3.1 litre V6 was also available in the Chevy Cavalier from 1990-94. The V6 engines only disappeared with the 1995 model year body redesign.

Four cylinder engines larger than two litres also found their way into the Chevrolet Cavalier. Various 2.2 litre inline fours were available from 1990 all the way through to the end of Chevy Cavalier production in 2005. Also, the 2.3 litre LD2 "Quad Four" engine was used for the Z24 and LS convertible in 1995. This was replaced by the 2.4 litre LD9 engine in 1996 and remained as the Cavalier's performance engine offering through 2002.

Other engines were the carb-fed 1.8 litre unit (produced for 1982 only) and the throttle-body injected 2.0 produced from 1983 through 1989.


In addition to the Oldsmobile Firenza and the Chevrolet Cavalier, behold these other US market GM J-Car offerings....




Pontiac J2000/Sunbird.





Buick Skyhawk.





And the ultimate GM piss-take, the Cadillac Cimarron!


ajprice

27,614 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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MadmanO/T People said:
I'm afraid I must correct you on your claim the 2.0 litre four was the Chevrolet Cavalier's top engine. It was not.
I was talking about the Vauxhall Cavalier. Thanks for the many other versions of the car though smile .

MadmanO/T People

899 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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ajprice said:
MadmanO/T People said:
I'm afraid I must correct you on your claim the 2.0 litre four was the Chevrolet Cavalier's top engine. It was not.
I was talking about the Vauxhall Cavalier. Thanks for the many other versions of the car though smile .
Oops, I thought you were talking about the Chevrolet version. Sorry.

Whilst the third generation Vauxhall Cavalier CDX and Cesaro special edition could be had with a 2.5 litre V6, this generation of Vauxhall Cavalier was built on the later GM2900 platform and, as such, Is unrelated to the J-car platform the Chevrolet Cavalier used all the way up to 2005. The Yank version really was something of an Antiques Roadshow underneath the sheet metal by the time it was finally pensioned off!


21st Century Man

40,967 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Espero was J car/world car 2000 platform too.

Blown2CV

28,916 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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ddom said:
Most of the ‘Saudi Specials’ are truly awful. But why not, you know as a supplier you just need to say ‘Yes Sir’ and bank some easy money.

Amusing though, Ferrari set out to rid the world of replicas bud have made some bespoke howlers smile
i do wonder if sometimes even the buyer realises full well they are awful but it's more of a status symbol that they have enough money that a manufacturer would do such an awful thing to please them.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Blown2CV said:
i do wonder if sometimes even the buyer realises full well they are awful but it's more of a status symbol that they have enough money that a manufacturer would do such an awful thing to please them.
I think that's probably exactly it. Having the world know that you're so special and rich that even Ferrari will embarrass itself to please you is exactly what they want

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Jimmy Recard said:
Blown2CV said:
i do wonder if sometimes even the buyer realises full well they are awful but it's more of a status symbol that they have enough money that a manufacturer would do such an awful thing to please them.
I think that's probably exactly it. Having the world know that you're so special and rich that even Ferrari will embarrass itself to please you is exactly what they want
Everyone spaffed themselves a year or two back over the Rolls Royce Sweptail, which apparently cost somebody £8m and looked like a dog's dinner.

Blown2CV

28,916 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Doofus said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Blown2CV said:
i do wonder if sometimes even the buyer realises full well they are awful but it's more of a status symbol that they have enough money that a manufacturer would do such an awful thing to please them.
I think that's probably exactly it. Having the world know that you're so special and rich that even Ferrari will embarrass itself to please you is exactly what they want
Everyone spaffed themselves a year or two back over the Rolls Royce Sweptail, which apparently cost somebody £8m and looked like a dog's dinner.
closer to £13M i believe!

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Blown2CV said:
closer to £13M i believe!
eek

Still looked rubbish, and once the glitter had blown away, I can't help suspecting that the owner suffered from a little bit of buyer's remorse.

Blown2CV

28,916 posts

204 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Doofus said:
Blown2CV said:
closer to £13M i believe!
eek

Still looked rubbish, and once the glitter had blown away, I can't help suspecting that the owner suffered from a little bit of buyer's remorse.
he probably had a long time to dwell on it after signing the order too, before seeing it in the flesh

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Blown2CV said:
he probably had a long time to dwell on it after signing the order too, before seeing it in the flesh
True. Maybe he liked it. It takes all sorts...


riskyj

318 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Blown2CV said:
he probably had a long time to dwell on it after signing the order too, before seeing it in the flesh
Who is the owner? Believe the car is Guernsey registered and the owner has quite the stable.

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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riskyj said:
Blown2CV said:
he probably had a long time to dwell on it after signing the order too, before seeing it in the flesh
Who is the owner? Believe the car is Guernsey registered and the owner has quite the stable.
Sounds like you know who it is already.

I don't know, BTW, nor do I care.

NomduJour

19,156 posts

260 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Son of a Hong Kong property magnate.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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1983 Chevy C-10 doublecab.





Steamer

13,870 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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1983?! - Blimey.. I'd have said 1973 from the styling.

Doofus

25,906 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Iwantafusca said:
1983 Chevy C-10 doublecab.
I'm not entirely convinced it's any of those things.
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