Do you hold the clutch down when you start your car?

Do you hold the clutch down when you start your car?

Poll: Do you hold the clutch down when you start your car?

Total Members Polled: 641

Yes: 83%
No: 17%
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crazy about cars

4,454 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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As an advanced driver I always depress cluth on ignition.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

183 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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crazy about cars said:
As an advanced driver I always depress cluth on ignition.
As an advanced car-starter I would do the same.

Does that make me special too?

Jaged

3,598 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Nope, as said it adds undue wear on the crank thrust bearing, which if your unlucky is a lot harder to replace than a starter motor.

I had one of those stop/start things on hire, pressed the other button on the dash and back to normal.

Modern gearbox oil is so thin these days, it does not add a lot of strain to the starter of a high compression V8!

But think of us poor auto owners.
Can't take key out unless in Park, can't start unless in Park, can't take out of Park unless brake pedal pressed, can't release electric hand-brake unless brake pedal pressed, can't use sat-nav unless I agree to restricted functions while car moving! LOL!




Jordan Rich

80 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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When you drive several different cars each day, it becomes habit. i can't sit in a manual without depressing the clutch and brake, you never know what condition the car is in. probably a quarter of all cars i drive have a dodgy handbrake, so they all get left in gear. i find that most Land Rover owners, especially owners of defenders or older discoverys/range rovers, leave it in gear.

My routine is;
clutch down when turning car off, and into 1st or reverse depending on how im parked.
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get in, depress clutch and brake (i do this as i get in rather than thinking about it) leave it in the gear it parked in, start, handbrake off (if its on) and lift foot of clutch. quickest and simplest way i find to do it with the minimal amount of gear changing, handbrake applying etc.

eggchaser1987

1,608 posts

150 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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I do, but really I have to driving one of them BMW's with the start button.

It did give me 10 minuites of fun though watching mother try and start the thing with out being told!

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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No, not when cold starting - I always check the gear stick to make sure it's in neutral. Pressing the clutch on starting can cause unnecessary load on the thrust washers, which can lead to crankwalk.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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My car had start issues and it was something I tried to get it to work (however pointless it may seem), so I've been doing it for about 2 years now.

ETA: Is there really that much added wear from this? I depress mine for 2 seconds when I start the car, I drive 20 minutes to work, and then the same back again. Throughout the week it adds about 16-20 clutch presses out of the hundreds in normal use.

Edited by MSTRBKR on Tuesday 26th June 22:42

*Al*

3,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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smile No mines auto. Manual yes of course.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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MSTRBKR said:
My car had start issues and it was something I tried to get it to work (however pointless it may seem), so I've been doing it for about 2 years now.

ETA: Is there really that much added wear from this? I depress mine for 2 seconds when I start the car, I drive 20 minutes to work, and then the same back again. Throughout the week it adds about 16-20 clutch presses out of the hundreds in normal use.
There will obviously be some extra wear, depressing the clutch puts quite a lot of load on the crank thrust bearings which will only have residual oil on them when you start the car. This is more likely to add extra drag to the starter motor rather than reducing it unless you are living in artic temperatures where the gearbox oil can thicken up significantly.

That said I doubt it will significantly reduce the life of the thrust bearings, but why bother doing it when it's such a pointless exercise? (unless you car has a starter interlock on the clutch).

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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I do it out of habit. I tend to park my car in my garage in gear with the handbrake off. To start, I depress the clutch, put it in neutral and twist the key. Go go go!

Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Hoofy said:
No and I always leave my car in gear...
+1

(Not an original answer but how many ways can you descibe doing that?)

kiteless

11,715 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I hope all you "clutch pushers" remember to turn off

  • the air conditioning, and
  • all electrical equipment
to minimise drag on the starter motor from a/c compressor and alternator.

And don't forget all that added wear and tear on the clutch thrust bearing too. wink

What a load of twaddle. You'll all die of a heart attack if you drive a car with stop/start!
Maybe I should post this in the Lounge's "Odd Habits" thread, but - yes - I am a clutch pusher, and yes I turn off all the electrical kit before turning off the engine: radio, heater fan / air conditioning /, lights / rear de-mister, the lot.

When she's in the passenger seat, I'd be joy, not disappoint, if the steering committee passed me a shut-down checklist silly





007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Allanv said:
I have no choice the car will not start without me holding the clutch in.
Same here (Monaro)

Thorfinn

8 posts

143 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Of course, us SAAB drivers have been conditioned to do this since 1967 (SAAB 99) - as usual, decades ahead of the rest.

Oops, did that sound smug? We're holding on to whatever smugness we still have these days, for obvious reasons...

007 VXR

64,187 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Thorfinn said:
Of course, us SAAB drivers have been conditioned to do this since 1967 (SAAB 99) - as usual, decades ahead of the rest.

Oops, did that sound smug? We're holding on to whatever smugness we still have these days, for obvious reasons...
Good luck with that hehe

wink

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I do this and wiggle the gearstick.
You have to hold down the clutch pedal in the new civic with keyless. Annoying sometimes.

redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Dip the clutch or waggle the gear stick to check for neutral. Always hold clutch in on the bike when starting as that has a wet clutch which places drag on the engine even in neutral.

Current car is an automatic so no need for any of that messing, but my Wife, who is not used to autos, still waggles the gear selector before she starts it. hehe

PumpkinSteve

4,104 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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My Polo doesn't start without the clutch depressed, I've no idea why VW did it.

Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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No, on cars that will start without, because I always make sure I can get a proper neutral before I start...

angusc43

11,493 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I always do it. Back in the day I'd always leave my various cars in gear and with the handbrake on. When you live somewhere hilly and have Alfasuds (with poor handbrakes) it makes sense.

I now leave the wife's Clio in gear if I know I'm driving it next.

If SWMBO jumps in though there is a bid lurch and then a scowl in my direction - she never dips the clutch.