RE: SOTW: Mk2 Toyota MR2

RE: SOTW: Mk2 Toyota MR2

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Gruber

6,313 posts

215 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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carinaman

21,335 posts

173 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Nomenclature even. redface

They all have Electric PAS?

Shame that blue one on eBay finishing in a few hours isn't going for peanuts. Shame that V6 one in Swindon is a T-bar one. They both have a year's ticket.

Vortrex

10 posts

169 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Japan Quality!!!

Vortrex

10 posts

169 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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carinaman said:
Nomenclature even. redface

They all have Electric PAS?

Shame that blue one on eBay finishing in a few hours isn't going for peanuts. Shame that V6 one in Swindon is a T-bar one. They both have a year's ticket.
Yes, MK2 has!

But MK1 not, i think...

carinaman

21,335 posts

173 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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A friend and a colleague have them. The friend had the coolant plumbing that runs down through the cills replaced, sounded an expensive job. A colleague has a G-Limited that looks pristine.

newdogg06

266 posts

190 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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SonicShadow said:
newdogg06 said:
I worked for a Toyota dealer when the Rev2 came out. The boss always had one as his demo and we used to use them as runabouts. Always found them tricky when lifting off mid-bend, but otherwise fairly decent handling if you knew what to expect.
If you do that in any MR car, you are going to have a bad time.
True, although ironically, the only car I actually went through a hedge backwards in was a 1.3 Corolla. Never told the boss!

RemarkLima

2,380 posts

213 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Vortrex said:
carinaman said:
Nomenclature even. redface

They all have Electric PAS?

Shame that blue one on eBay finishing in a few hours isn't going for peanuts. Shame that V6 one in Swindon is a T-bar one. They both have a year's ticket.
Yes, MK2 has!

But MK1 not, i think...
AFAIK no Mk1 had power steering at all.

Many Rev 1 Mk2's (90-91 I think) didn't have power steering, I think some did, especially JDM models. Any Mk2's that had power steering it was an electric pump to pressurise the hydraulic fluid for the "standard" hydraulic power steering, rather than a compressor on the engine with pipes to the steering rack - made more sense than running those pipes from the back to the front! So it's electric power steering, but really it's hydraulic power steering powered with an electric motor.

The coolant lines do run above the fuel tank, and if they go to do the job properly requires the tank to be dropped - however many will have just had those pipes cut near the bulkhead and new lines run under the tank and above the undertray as it's significantly cheaper to do so.

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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RemarkLima said:
Any Mk2's that had power steering it was an electric pump to pressurise the hydraulic fluid for the "standard" hydraulic power steering, rather than a compressor on the engine with pipes to the steering rack - made more sense than running those pipes from the back to the front! So it's electric power steering, but really it's hydraulic power steering powered with an electric motor.
yes

Not to be confused with the often-nasty pure electric systems found on most cars these days.

Wadeski

8,165 posts

214 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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carinaman said:
A friend and a colleague have them. The friend had the coolant plumbing that runs down through the cills replaced, sounded an expensive job.
They are known as "the pipes from hell" for a reason. Its not too expensive though if you go to a good MR2 specialist who has done it before - of which there are lots around the country.

carinaman

21,335 posts

173 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Thanks RemarkLima and Chris71, I was assuming it was pure electric PAS.

Having driven a P plate base spec. 1.6 MX-5s that came on steel wheels and no PAS knowing they did some without PAS is good to know.

DreadedDev

13 posts

166 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Not sure if this is against PH rules, but I've got a Rev 3 MK2 MR2 (94) with only ~90000 miles on the clock (although being an import it is in KM's on the clock). With full electric folding mirrors, air con etc, refurbed 17" wheels with Toyo Proxies on them and a K&N induction kit. needs a new wheel bearing for it's MOT and your away. I would sell it for £550 (was going to ask £600) at the moment as I really need the cash for another project!!! drop me a message on here or e-mail me at i_moores at thewellknownverywarmMSeMail (hotmail) dot com

Beaverking

160 posts

145 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Contigo said:
Great in their day but just so dated and dull for me these days. For a Grand I'd find other cars that interest and involve me far more.
Like what?

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Had a 95 tropical blue metalic one, ate its 3rd gear, then its clutch. The months i owned it were amazing, the speakers and subwoofer make for a great GT car, the gear ratios and need to work the engine does not.

Skrimp on tyres at your peril, it will get you.

A T-bar is a must, they just increase a lovely car.

Expect looks as they always look 5k more than they cost.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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I've had two, one black tbar UK car and one rev 4 turbo in white.

They were great in a straight line and having the engine revving behind your ears never got boring. But as it's been said forever and a day on here and other forums, they're not the best around bends and in the wet. I fishtailed a little once whilst going 20mph over a manhole cover in the rain, in a straight line.

Great brakes, awful understeer into snap oversteer. Lot's of drifting hero videos on youtube though with properly set up cars. smile

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Never found cornering to be an issue, and that was around Snowdonia at possibly illegal speeds. They do need to be driven differently than a FWD car, or even an FR car.

TotalControl

8,084 posts

199 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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How much can a decent rev 5 Beams be had for nowadays? So desperately want one in my life.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Never found cornering to be an issue, and that was around Snowdonia at possibly illegal speeds. They do need to be driven differently than a FWD car, or even an FR car.
Yes, there will always be people who say cornering is fine and those who found it tricky just didn't know how to drive. And it does corner brilliantly well. If you're in a car that's 100% set up perfectly, correct suspension, tyres, tracking/geo etc and you don't go near the limits, you'll be fine. I had a tail out a fair few times and it was fun. But it never felt properly exploitable. I guess that's what I mean. It was never more than a 3 out of 5 car for me. A car you could make great progress in but it was not a legendary performer from behind the wheel. Certainly not E30 M3 standards or any other brilliantly balanced car.

Plus if we're going to talk about image, I'd say it has none. It's a shed, which is why it's on SOTW. I don't think anyone regards it has a £5k+ car at all. Even though some mint turbos go for more than that. It's still an average car designed and engineered in the late 80's without the retro cool. Give it another 10 years and it'll start getting that warm old JDM feeling. Like a baby NSX that's not too clever really.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TotalControl said:
How much can a decent rev 5 Beams be had for nowadays? So desperately want one in my life.
Probably not that much if you can find an unloved one. I remember seeing a rev 5 for around £2.5k being sold by a dealer who didn't know much about it.

I'd go for a clean Rev 3 and swap in a Camry V6. Seems to be the best NA option.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

155 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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TotalControl said:
How much can a decent rev 5 Beams be had for nowadays? So desperately want one in my life.
Finding one for sale in the first place will probably be the most difficult part of buying one.

carinaman

21,335 posts

173 months

Friday 29th June 2012
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Hellbound, given your comment about fishtailing at 20MPH on manhole covers, perhaps it was a tyre and/or suspension alignment issue?

Heretic, so what driving style do they need? Slow in, fast out, accelerating some way past the apex or holding off until straight?