RE: C63 Black Series: The perfect road car?
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Less the awesome aggressive styling I'd describe a recent similar drive in a standard C63 in much the same terms. I'd love a go in one of these! I'm sure Chris could give us more insight into the difference between the standard car and the Black. We liked the ride quality of the C63, how easy it was to drive in town/traffic and what a beast it becomes out of town, great stat up noise and command online system too. We didn't buy one though because we live in Wales, it rains a lot and I like the certainty of 4wd - yes I know the downsides of less tactility etc. I wonder what Chris might have said if it were a wet run through Wales?
On a related note I saw a C63 Black Series being given the beans across the A4059 about 2/3 months ago (I'm pretty sure it was 5th Gear filming) it looked and sounded stunning. You will surely be seen and heard if you drive one of these and I will give you a very large thumbs up if I see you enjoying our local roads!
On a related note I saw a C63 Black Series being given the beans across the A4059 about 2/3 months ago (I'm pretty sure it was 5th Gear filming) it looked and sounded stunning. You will surely be seen and heard if you drive one of these and I will give you a very large thumbs up if I see you enjoying our local roads!
Gridl0k said:
marcosgt said:
Does nothing for me.
Even if you don't appreciate the specific car, you have to appreciate top-tier manufacturers still willing to do things like this. These cars cost Mercedes nothing to put together and they charge mugs a fortune for them.
All Aluminium cars are something to 'appreciate' as the technology will filter down in time, this is just a hot-rod.
I'm sure they're great fun to drive, but so are lots of cars. If I wanted something really sporty, I wouldn't buy a big Merc saloon with no rear seats (Or do they put them back in these days?).
M.
C7 JFW said:
Unsure what NVH means when relating to the GT-R, not very..?
Noise Vibration and Harshness; it's an automotive industry term used to describe the ambient quality of the cabin. I can't get a Black Series, but I'll be running a standard C63 AMG Coupe next year. Can't wait...
kambites said:
Only at a given engine speed.
Here we go again.... Think of it this way. On my mountain bike, in the lowest gear I can develop lots of torque at the back wheel. If I had a very very low first gear, I could probably muster 500 lbft (assuming things don't snap)!! Impressive eh? But how much power could I develop? Not much because power is that 500 lbft multiplied by wheel rpm. In a gear that low, my wheel rpm is fack all - maybe 10rpm. So my power is low even though my torque is very high.
If I could apply the same 500 lbft and make the back wheel turn at thousands of rpm.... well then there you have big power.
SpunkyM said:
Here we go again.... Think of it this way. On my mountain bike, in the lowest gear I can develop lots of torque at the back wheel. If I had a very very low first gear, I could probably muster 500 lbft (assuming things don't snap)!! Impressive eh?
But how much power could I develop? Not much because power is that 500 lbft multiplied by wheel rpm. In a gear that low, my wheel rpm is fack all - maybe 10rpm. So my power is low even though my torque is very high.
If I could apply the same 500 lbft and make the back wheel turn at thousands of rpm.... well then there you have big power.
Thats not really true either is it...But how much power could I develop? Not much because power is that 500 lbft multiplied by wheel rpm. In a gear that low, my wheel rpm is fack all - maybe 10rpm. So my power is low even though my torque is very high.
If I could apply the same 500 lbft and make the back wheel turn at thousands of rpm.... well then there you have big power.
In your example it is your legs that generate the force, the bike wheel is geared which multiplies the force you are applying, so the wheel rpm is governed by the gear ratio. Put 500lbft of torque onto the pedals in one gear and the wheel will spin at a certain rpm, if its a different gear the wheel rpm will be different, even if the force applied is the same.
Power in this case is simply a mathmatical formula, torque x engine revolutions, so an engine with a large amount of torque will make its power at lower revolutions than an engine with lower torque.
An engine that doesn't rev very high will never make as much power as one that has the same torque but revs higher, hence why a lot of diesel engines, despite large torque figures don't make huge peak power figures as they do not rev as high as a petrol engine, but at 1500rpm they are making more power than the petrol at the same rpm, making them more driveable and giving often better in gear acceleration ( dependant on gear ratios)
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