Cars with engines you never new existed
Discussion
DaveH23 said:
In another thread somebody mentioned the a Jag S type with a V8 aswell - I always thought this was an oil burning motorway cruiser.
Over to you..
Really?Over to you..
The S-Type from launch, and for the first 5 years of its existence was ONLY available as a petrol V8 or V6. The diesel variant came very late.
And the V8 rover? Again, every petrolhead should be aware of its existence.
The Rover 600, universally regarded as a boring grandad car. Yet there was a performance variant that most people are totally unaware of. Rover fitted this unassuming looking car with a T-series 2 litre turbocharged engine, giving it 197bhp and 0-60 in 7s and 143mph.
The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
EDIT: of course, petrolheads are aware of the car. But even then, a lot of people still believe it had a Honda engine, when in fact the T series is a Rover engine, built by Powertrain.
The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
EDIT: of course, petrolheads are aware of the car. But even then, a lot of people still believe it had a Honda engine, when in fact the T series is a Rover engine, built by Powertrain.
Edited by calibrax on Friday 6th July 09:59
Johnnytheboy said:
I recently saw a crazy looking man driving a (first shape) Mercedes ML 400 CDi.
Turns out you could get a 4 litre V8 diesel one in Europe - how he'd obtained an RHD one I don't know.
Thats new to me too, after doing my Wiki search on the 400 I see they also did an ML230! Turns out you could get a 4 litre V8 diesel one in Europe - how he'd obtained an RHD one I don't know.
calibrax said:
The Rover 600, universally regarded as a boring grandad car. Yet there was a performance variant that most people are totally unaware of. Rover fitted this unassuming looking car with a T-series 2 litre turbocharged engine, giving it 197bhp and 0-60 in 7s and 143mph.
The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
The 400 turbo saloon was great for these reasons also, although slightly less granddaddy perhaps The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
http://cars.trovit.co.uk/index.php/cod.ad/what_d.r...
Rover 75 4.6 V8 (not MG) Connoisseur SE model.
£30k smackers though... ouch...
Having another look at it... like it, a lot.
Rover 75 4.6 V8 (not MG) Connoisseur SE model.
£30k smackers though... ouch...
Having another look at it... like it, a lot.
deltashad said:
http://cars.trovit.co.uk/index.php/cod.ad/what_d.r...
Rover 75 4.6 V8 (not MG) Connoisseur SE model.
£30k smackers though... ouch...
Having another look at it... like it, a lot.
I suspect they're deluded if they think they'll get 30k for it. You can get a decent (but earlier) one for 5k.Rover 75 4.6 V8 (not MG) Connoisseur SE model.
£30k smackers though... ouch...
Having another look at it... like it, a lot.
monthefish said:
Really?
The S-Type from launch, and for the first 5 years of its existence was ONLY available as a petrol V8 or V6. The diesel variant came very late.
And the V8 rover? Again, every petrolhead should be aware of its existence.
Yes.The S-Type from launch, and for the first 5 years of its existence was ONLY available as a petrol V8 or V6. The diesel variant came very late.
And the V8 rover? Again, every petrolhead should be aware of its existence.
Its a car Ive never took any notice of and made a wrong assumption.
Up until a couple of years ago, I never knew Toyota stuck a supercharger on the engine in the Corolla T-Sport
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
kwak said:
Didn't Ford make a 2-stroke Fiesta for a small time in the early '90s?
I remember they were working with Orbital (I think it was) on the development of a small 2-stroke and think it had been put in a Fiesta mule.Not sure they actually made and sold any though.
Sure Autocar ran a piece on it or something.
Steamer said:
Okay, well thats a new one on me..
I only recently found out the Marina was fitted with A 1.5-litre diesel version, using an engine developed from the B-Series, was offered in a few European countries where the tax rates favoured oilburners. With no more than 37 or 40 hp on offer!!
Damn that must of been a joy to drive back in 1972
How about a 2001 escort diesel van with 55 bhp bet that's a joy 2 :0) I only recently found out the Marina was fitted with A 1.5-litre diesel version, using an engine developed from the B-Series, was offered in a few European countries where the tax rates favoured oilburners. With no more than 37 or 40 hp on offer!!
Damn that must of been a joy to drive back in 1972
you've gotta love the subtlety on here sometimes 
fathomfive said:
kwak said:
Didn't Ford make a 2-stroke Fiesta for a small time in the early '90s?
I remember they were working with Orbital (I think it was) on the development of a small 2-stroke and think it had been put in a Fiesta mule.Not sure they actually made and sold any though.
Sure Autocar ran a piece on it or something.
I didn't know the P38 Range Rover came with the BMW 2.5 straight six diesel engine, always assumed it was the 4 cylinder Land Rover 200/300 TDi.
I also didn't know you could get an E39 with the same engine.
calibrax said:
The Rover 600, universally regarded as a boring grandad car. Yet there was a performance variant that most people are totally unaware of. Rover fitted this unassuming looking car with a T-series 2 litre turbocharged engine, giving it 197bhp and 0-60 in 7s and 143mph.
The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
EDIT: of course, petrolheads are aware of the car. But even then, a lot of people still believe it had a Honda engine, when in fact the T series is a Rover engine, built by Powertrain.
In about 1998, Rover launched a variant which looked like a Turbo but was in fact available as a 2.0D or 1.8 petrol. The petrol had a single chrome exhaust, the diesel twin down pointing exhausts. Visually they were otherwise identical - although I'm sure the diesel didn't have front fogs.The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.
Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!
EDIT: of course, petrolheads are aware of the car. But even then, a lot of people still believe it had a Honda engine, when in fact the T series is a Rover engine, built by Powertrain.
Edited by calibrax on Friday 6th July 09:59
From memory the 620Ti had very little marketing even before BMW bought the company.
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