Cars with engines you never new existed

[y2blade]

Timberwolf said:

Australian market Ford Cortinas came with a 4.1 litre straight six. Not sure for how many generations, although the Mk3 certainly did.

Handling may well have topped even the Essex V6-engined Savage conversions for interestingness... anyone ever driven one?

I never knew that, thank you.

[fourwheelsteer]

y2blade said:

Timberwolf said:

Australian market Ford Cortinas came with a 4.1 litre straight six. Not sure for how many generations, although the Mk3 certainly did.

Handling may well have topped even the Essex V6-engined Savage conversions for interestingness... anyone ever driven one?

I never knew that, thank you.

I did read some driving impressions in a 1970s copy of CAR. Can't remember the exact wording but "Not Good" was the general impression I got. I think it was a battle between the heavily loaded front tyres and the all to lively live axle as to which end would break away first.

[dtmpower]

varsas said:

Was supposed to go in the Ka, hence the low bonnet line on that car and resultant problems with fitting OHC engines.

I didn't know the P38 Range Rover came with the BMW 2.5 straight six diesel engine, always assumed it was the 4 cylinder Land Rover 200/300 TDi.

I also didn't know you could get an E39 with the same engine.

Was also in the E36 as a 325td and 325tds

[deltashad]

Ford produced 250 of the Sierra XR8's with the full fat 5.0 mustang engine.

[Vitorio]

trashbat said:

It took me a long time to find out that Alfa made a 2.0 V6 turbo - Edizione Taxdodgio.

Edit: as per the 208 too (same principle, not same engine)

Yup, leave it to those italians, oooh we cannot-a have the big engine because of the tax? why not a turbo? /mario-voice.

Wasnt really obscure though, for the first few years it was the only v6 in the 916 type GTV, next to a 2.0 twinspark. The car only got the 3.0 v6 in 97. The 2.0 v6 turbo is a bit more rare in the 164 though.

[mrtwisty]

fathomfive said:

Up until a couple of years ago, I never knew Toyota stuck a supercharger on the engine in the Corolla T-Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

I need that engine in my Celica NOW

ETA - Seems they didn't do a very good job filling the torque void in the engine... shame.

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/6260...

Edited by mrtwisty on Friday 6th July 11:25

[mike325112]

dtmpower said:

varsas said:

Was supposed to go in the Ka, hence the low bonnet line on that car and resultant problems with fitting OHC engines.

I didn't know the P38 Range Rover came with the BMW 2.5 straight six diesel engine, always assumed it was the 4 cylinder Land Rover 200/300 TDi.

I also didn't know you could get an E39 with the same engine.

Was also in the E36 as a 325td and 325tds

I think that engine is in some of the diesel Omegas too...

[king arthur]

DaveH23 said:

In another thread somebody mentioned the a Jag S type with a V8 aswell - I always thought this was an oil burning motorway cruiser.

You might be surprised to know that Jaguar also fitted the 2.5 V6 in the S Type, you don't see too many of those about either.

[P-Jay]

I swear I saw a 5th Gen SL in France last week badged as an SL280, but I can't find any mention of it on Wiki now...

Speaking of the Alfa 2.0 V6 Turbo, I'm sure they did a GTV 2.0 V6 Trubo with 4WD, sadly not in RHD, that would be a hell of a car.

[markCSC]

P-Jay said:

I swear I saw a 5th Gen SL in France last week badged as an SL280, but I can't find any mention of it on Wiki now...

Like this? http://www.stjamesmotorco.com/detail.asp?carid=326...

[JohnoVR6]

fathomfive said:

Up until a couple of years ago, I never knew Toyota stuck a supercharger on the engine in the Corolla T-Sport

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

I found that one out the hard way, tried keeping up with one in my old VR6. Didn't happen.

[P-Jay]

markCSC said:

P-Jay said:

I swear I saw a 5th Gen SL in France last week badged as an SL280, but I can't find any mention of it on Wiki now...

Like this? http://www.stjamesmotorco.com/detail.asp?carid=326...

Much later model, I only walked past it at the services and it was on French plates so not sure of the age, but I would guess 2-3 years max, it was a current facelift model. I recall thinking it might be a 'green' model for mainland Europe.

Maybe some French bloke just decided to rebadge a 500 or something.

[Trommel]

varsas said:

I didn't know the P38 Range Rover came with the BMW 2.5 straight six diesel engine, always assumed it was the 4 cylinder Land Rover 200/300 TDi

They're bad enough with the BMW engine, I can only imagine how awful they would be with a clanking old Tdi.

On the other hand, the BMW M52-engined South African Defenders sound more appealing.

[The Nur]

Trommel said:

varsas said:

I didn't know the P38 Range Rover came with the BMW 2.5 straight six diesel engine, always assumed it was the 4 cylinder Land Rover 200/300 TDi

They're bad enough with the BMW engine, I can only imagine how awful they would be with a clanking old Tdi.

On the other hand, the BMW M52-engined South African Defenders sound more appealing.

My grandfather had a rangey with the BMW engine. It was alright as it goes.

[Trommel]

The Nur said:

It was alright as it goes

If you've just got out of a 300 Tdi classic, maybe.

[marksx]

I never knew Volvo did a V8 S80.

[The Nur]

Trommel said:

If you've just got out of a 300 Tdi classic, maybe.

My exes dad had one of those, it was definitely better than that!

[Fast Bug]

Fun Bus said:

calibrax said:

The Rover 600, universally regarded as a boring grandad car. Yet there was a performance variant that most people are totally unaware of. Rover fitted this unassuming looking car with a T-series 2 litre turbocharged engine, giving it 197bhp and 0-60 in 7s and 143mph.

The car had very little marketing, as BMW (who owned Rover at the time) did not want it to impact on sales of their 3 series performance models, the 620ti being quite a bit cheaper than the BMWs.

Although the earlier models featured a "620ti" badge on the back, from about 1997 they only had "600" as a badge, the same as the other cars in the range. The only way to identify a 620ti from the other models were the twin chrome tailpipes and the 16" alloys. A proper stealth car!

EDIT: of course, petrolheads are aware of the car. But even then, a lot of people still believe it had a Honda engine, when in fact the T series is a Rover engine, built by Powertrain.

Edited by calibrax on Friday 6th July 09:59

In about 1998, Rover launched a variant which looked like a Turbo but was in fact available as a 2.0D or 1.8 petrol. The petrol had a single chrome exhaust, the diesel twin down pointing exhausts. Visually they were otherwise identical - although I'm sure the diesel didn't have front fogs.

From memory the 620Ti had very little marketing even before BMW bought the company.

Rover sold the 600 iS range, which had the turbo wheels etc on. And they did market the Ti, I'm sure there was a TV ad for it. It was a long time ago I sold them though!

[graham22]

Nissan Sunny with a Alfa flat four.

Back in the day looking for a reliable car for the girlfriend at the time, looked at car, didn't take note of the model, grabbed the keys from the salesman, opened the bonnet and had to double take. Motor still had Alfa in the castings - thought I'd opened the bonnet of another car!!

They also did an Alfa version of the same car, Sunny body, Alfa engine - Arnette or something?

[Vince70]

king arthur said:

DaveH23 said:

In another thread somebody mentioned the a Jag S type with a V8 aswell - I always thought this was an oil burning motorway cruiser.

You might be surprised to know that Jaguar also fitted the 2.5 V6 in the S Type, you don't see too many of those about either.

I think it's the same v6 engine that is fitted in the 2.5 ford cougar also it's fitted in the mondo st I'm not sure but I believe the heads maybe different.
Also isn't the Aston Martin V12 engine two ford/jag 3 litre engines welded together..
So if that's the case you can buy a ford cougar and say you have a poor mans Aston as it shares DNA lol.