RE: SOTW: Rover 420 GSi Turbo
Discussion
annodomini2 said:
Agree, typical price wasn't £800 at that time, how much of the car was intact?
It literally had a dented wing and that was all, my brother ended up running it for 7 years ending up with a forged lump running 260bhp and 13.9 quarters with a decent pace on circuits thanks to a Wilwood brake kit and Konis.... TUF car 
Absolute bargain.
300bhp/ton said:
MGJohn said:
anything fast said:
I quite like the BRM one, and the loud trim.. 
Careful there. You are wise to get your coat. This is PH. The home of infestations of Rover hater hatters... mad as in fact ... I 'came out' with liking them early on in my PH 'career' and life has been a hellish misery ever since....
Good job my shoulders are broad. My aspiration.... One day, I'll own a Focus and become a valued part of the PH community... 
splitpin said:
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12 Pages On ...........
Lest We Forget (doubt Garlick ever will) ............
A Fail of Truly Epic Proportions Riggers
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Ease up on the fella ... you'll have him blowing a gasket.12 Pages On ...........
Lest We Forget (doubt Garlick ever will) ............
A Fail of Truly Epic Proportions Riggers
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The thread has been "Very interesting" But, and it's a BIG BUTT :~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyUKnCf0YY
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To all this moaning about rover's I must say I personally ran a MG ZR for 14 months and gave it a good 12k miles of thrashing and nothing went wrong on it at all very reliable and personally I felt it drove really well (handling seemed nearly as good as my 172 clio) and at what I paid £1450 for an 05 it represented great value for money.
However when you look at them in terms of what they cost brand new to be honest they were pretty s
t and easy to see why the company failed as while I did like my ZR I could never dream of paying the 12k they retailed at new to be honest.
But they now make great used buys as the low prices allow you to look past the dated interior and poor quality in areas to what is the great driving and pretty reliable cars underneath, if you want something good to drive car's like the ZR160 and ZS180 really are amazing value at the moment
Edit - Grammar is poor I know but I am tired sorry...
However when you look at them in terms of what they cost brand new to be honest they were pretty s
t and easy to see why the company failed as while I did like my ZR I could never dream of paying the 12k they retailed at new to be honest. But they now make great used buys as the low prices allow you to look past the dated interior and poor quality in areas to what is the great driving and pretty reliable cars underneath, if you want something good to drive car's like the ZR160 and ZS180 really are amazing value at the moment
Edit - Grammar is poor I know but I am tired sorry...
J4CKO said:
Funny how, being so st and everything, it is still dragging itself around, I must say it doesnt shout want at me much these days, but back in the early nineties it was a half decent car.
I bet the turbo one would still give a few of the portly modern hot hatches a shock, in a straigh line at least, I actually quite like a bit of torque steer, you dont get that much to do in a FWD car.
Some on here remind me of my youngest when he was three, he used to want the same book every night for his story and the same is true of those who want a six cylinder BMW every week as the shed so they can say "Bargetastic", it is shed of the week after all, and this is a bit of a shed.
Still, a few more years and they will all be gone and we will be drowing totally in a sea of silver german diesel sub-execs, Premium Diesel SUV's and Korean appliances (With new, added, funky headlights in a cod Evoque stylee), I kind of like its old man at the Golf Club/Downgraded Partridge chic, its a reminder of when we made our own cars, not other peoples, it might of been st, but at least it was our st.
Amazing rant, love it!t and everything, it is still dragging itself around, I must say it doesnt shout want at me much these days, but back in the early nineties it was a half decent car.I bet the turbo one would still give a few of the portly modern hot hatches a shock, in a straigh line at least, I actually quite like a bit of torque steer, you dont get that much to do in a FWD car.
Some on here remind me of my youngest when he was three, he used to want the same book every night for his story and the same is true of those who want a six cylinder BMW every week as the shed so they can say "Bargetastic", it is shed of the week after all, and this is a bit of a shed.
Still, a few more years and they will all be gone and we will be drowing totally in a sea of silver german diesel sub-execs, Premium Diesel SUV's and Korean appliances (With new, added, funky headlights in a cod Evoque stylee), I kind of like its old man at the Golf Club/Downgraded Partridge chic, its a reminder of when we made our own cars, not other peoples, it might of been s
t, but at least it was our st.Too the guys about the speed; the fastest ive been in a car is a gsi turbo, 125mph up haldon hill
(a very step hill)Clarkson killed the British car industry?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17273462
Don't BMW have three plants in the UK?
Didn't I read somewhere a while ago that some people were a bit miffed that it was cheaper to buy a new Triumph motorcycle in the US than here in the UK?
The demise of the British car industry is why so many kids are 'Neets'?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18162433
Besides changes in education since BL were making Spitfires and MGs for US consumption don't you think family and societal values have also changed a fair bit?
'Jobless recovery'?
The whole British economy was buoyed up by too much cheap credit and people spending to the max on some notional idea of what their property that still may have a mortgage on it may have been worth. How many local newspaper front pages have you seen this year where Estate Agents are trying to talk up property values? We've all heard of eBay, and knowing what bargains are there to be had and things like used cars and motorcycles have their values set there by what price people are prepared to pay but we seem incapable of relating that to property values?
The whole splurge of buying stuff on the never, never has created over capacity. People weren't spending their own real money, they were spending debt.
£150BN of Quantative Easing? Couldn't that have been spent on services or stuff that employed people rather than just dumping it in for nothing?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17273462
Don't BMW have three plants in the UK?
Didn't I read somewhere a while ago that some people were a bit miffed that it was cheaper to buy a new Triumph motorcycle in the US than here in the UK?
The demise of the British car industry is why so many kids are 'Neets'?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18162433
Besides changes in education since BL were making Spitfires and MGs for US consumption don't you think family and societal values have also changed a fair bit?
'Jobless recovery'?
The whole British economy was buoyed up by too much cheap credit and people spending to the max on some notional idea of what their property that still may have a mortgage on it may have been worth. How many local newspaper front pages have you seen this year where Estate Agents are trying to talk up property values? We've all heard of eBay, and knowing what bargains are there to be had and things like used cars and motorcycles have their values set there by what price people are prepared to pay but we seem incapable of relating that to property values?
The whole splurge of buying stuff on the never, never has created over capacity. People weren't spending their own real money, they were spending debt.
£150BN of Quantative Easing? Couldn't that have been spent on services or stuff that employed people rather than just dumping it in for nothing?
STiG911 said:
Same engine, different(ish) car - I loved my 220 Coupe. Hands down one of the best looking and most reliable cars I've ever owned.
Went like a train for the 5 years I owned it, and besides servicing, tyres and one exhaust over almost 80,000 miles, (to a total of 122,000 before selling) bizarrely required two clutch cables.
Still get a bit misty eyed when I see one.
Are you me? I had a vomit green 220 turbo at 23 years old. Torque steer was order of the day, but other than that it was brilliant, I absolutely loved it over 70-80k miles and 3 years. 0-60 in 6 and a vmax of 150. And petrol a was 70p a litre back then too! Sigh.... These and Astra GTE are my 90s cars Achilles heel . Went like a train for the 5 years I owned it, and besides servicing, tyres and one exhaust over almost 80,000 miles, (to a total of 122,000 before selling) bizarrely required two clutch cables.
Still get a bit misty eyed when I see one.
My own first car was a Rover 214Si, nightfire red. N reg and only 59k miles on it for a grand (about ten years ago). I was young so naturally I rung the neck out of it for the two years I had it, never serviced it and it was great. I got the Alan Partridge jokes for it but at the time, it was faster, more comfortable and more practical than all my mates newly purchased insurance friendly motors.
I then jumped into a ZS180 as the values had plummeted. I got a year old with minimal miles and a service for £6k. That was a great car!
I have love for Rover. When I see this SOTW model Rover on the road, I get a little misty eyed.
I then jumped into a ZS180 as the values had plummeted. I got a year old with minimal miles and a service for £6k. That was a great car!
I have love for Rover. When I see this SOTW model Rover on the road, I get a little misty eyed.
nottyash said:
MGJohn said:
I was amazed when my son told me the other day that in the two years he's had his Lotus Elise S2. It has a 1.8 Rover K-Series behind the driver...
Exactly why I have not bought an EliseEdited by MGJohn on Saturday 7th July 17:12
You pathetic Rover Hatter.
If you have a shred of fairness about anything you do, PLEASE correct it !
I had a nightfire red Rover 420 GSi turbo ... mine was K678 JRW ... quite a similar 'ish reg to this one ...
I only had it a couple of years but it was a hoot - I had Racelogic fit traction control to it and had it remapped as well ... it flew and the T/C managed the power brilliantly.
Sadly the gearboxes didn't like as much power as I did so it went ... fun whilst I had it though
I only had it a couple of years but it was a hoot - I had Racelogic fit traction control to it and had it remapped as well ... it flew and the T/C managed the power brilliantly.
Sadly the gearboxes didn't like as much power as I did so it went ... fun whilst I had it though
Clarkson really did a poor job killing the British car industry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18764730
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18764730
carinaman said:
Clarkson really did a poor job killing the British car industry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18764730
British ? .... Indigenous? ... When it suits, they'll be gone.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18764730
Spot the difference. Several of those non-indigenous Manufacturers have threatened to upsticks in the past and ... what of the future IF, it no longer suits them to remain? Except to vend their stuff here invariably with larger margins than elsewhere.
Never happen did someone say.
It's no mere bad luck or simple coincidence that things are the way they are in uber-Skint UK with ever fewer and diminishing signs of ever getting better.
£250 Million ... peanuts. Still every drop in the Ocean.
Lets blame the bankers ... yes, that's it. Feeling better now?
Just another viewpoint on these things. YOU obviously have yours, I have mine. Yours are obviously superior as they tell the full story.
MGJohn said:
British ? .... Indigenous? ... When it suits, they'll be gone.
Spot the difference. Several of those non-indigenous Manufacturers have threatened to upsticks in the past and ... what of the future IF, it no longer suits them to remain? Except to vend their stuff here invariably with larger margins than elsewhere.
Many UK owned manufacturers have also said the same things over the decades and more car factories have been closed by UK managers and companies in the last 50 years than any foreign ones.Spot the difference. Several of those non-indigenous Manufacturers have threatened to upsticks in the past and ... what of the future IF, it no longer suits them to remain? Except to vend their stuff here invariably with larger margins than elsewhere.
No large international will remain anywhere if it does not suit them, regardless of who owns them.
s m said:
iain1970 said:
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An uncle of mine that worked for Royal Ordnance had a 3-door 220 Turbo as a company car when they came out to replace an 820. It was (at the time) mental.
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Try finding a hot hatch that is appreciably faster in a straight line nowAn uncle of mine that worked for Royal Ordnance had a 3-door 220 Turbo as a company car when they came out to replace an 820. It was (at the time) mental.
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