RE: No more cars from TVR, says Smolensky
Discussion
Cotic said:
300bhp/ton said:
eh? The AJ8 is a Jaguar engine and never had anything to do with Ford.
Apart from the fact that it was developed under Ford ownership, and remains built by Ford at Bridgend, then yes, you're right. And IIRC the intellectual property rights for the engine are owned by Ford too.
trickymex said:
Why don't they go down the kit car route? I for one would love a cerbera with an m5 v10 or v8, come to think of it a m3 straight 6 would be good as well or the obvious GM v8 option. Just imagine the sound of a cerbera v10 screaming round the track........might see if I can find a cerbera with a blown engine
I've been saying that for years - I reckon a TVR kit would be a viable alternative to the myriad Cobra replicas out there. Plus, the build quality expectations would be roughly the same and they'd be selling into a similar market.I reckon they could use one chassis style and offer kits with M-series and Griffith bodies, pretty much any donor engine you wanted (Chevrolet and Ford V8s would be a possibility, as would BMW straight-sixes), and the option of factory turnkey or home-build options. Come to think of it, you could possibly re-release the old Tuscan Challenge-shape body as a budget track-day option.
This is where TVR's heartland is - grass-roots British specialist and track-day motorsport. It had a brief day in the sun in the late '90s and early '00s challenging Lamborghini, but the sophistication wasn't there and I suspect deep down they knew it.
Given that despite the big coupes failing, Marcos still survives producing the Mini-Marcos as a kit, I see no reason why TVR couldn't return to its roots as a kit producer. Also, I suspect a lot of people buying turnkey Cobras from the likes of RAM and Gardner Douglas might once have bought a Griffith.
Cotic said:
300bhp/ton said:
eh? The AJ8 is a Jaguar engine and never had anything to do with Ford.
Apart from the fact that it was developed under Ford ownership, and remains built by Ford at Bridgend, then yes, you're right. And IIRC the intellectual property rights for the engine are owned by Ford too.Surely that company that bought Bowler and tried to buy/make Spyker should have a go, the ones in Coventry.
CPP, that's it. Though they now appear to be called Envisage manufacturing, but they've certainly got form in this field.
I understand that in the modern climate it's just too hard to get a low volume car company off the ground again, it's just too much money.
BUT - don't bastardise the name by sticking them on f
king wind turbines FFS. Sweet jesus, let it die with some dignity.
CPP, that's it. Though they now appear to be called Envisage manufacturing, but they've certainly got form in this field.
I understand that in the modern climate it's just too hard to get a low volume car company off the ground again, it's just too much money.
BUT - don't bastardise the name by sticking them on f
king wind turbines FFS. Sweet jesus, let it die with some dignity.900T-R said:
300bhp/ton said:
900T-R said:
Jaguar supercharged V6 and V8 engines
Supercharged V6? Is this new or have I just missed it?
John Deloren
John Towers
Victor Muller
Danny Bahar
Nikolai Smolensky
All of them, like little kids in a model shop.
"Look, look, buy me the shiny one! Buy me the shiny one! BUY ME THE SHINY ONE!!
Look! Look! Look what I've got! I've got the shiny one! I'm much better than you! I've got the shiny one, it goes broum! broum! Its just like the one daddy used to have, ITS SHINY! LOOK AT ME!!"
"Its broken. Some other kid broke it, it wasn't my fault, a bad kid did it and ran away.............. don't want it anymore...."
"Look, LOOK! Another shiny one! Buy me the shiny one! BUY ME THE SHINY ONE!!"
John Towers
Victor Muller
Danny Bahar
Nikolai Smolensky
All of them, like little kids in a model shop.
"Look, look, buy me the shiny one! Buy me the shiny one! BUY ME THE SHINY ONE!!
Look! Look! Look what I've got! I've got the shiny one! I'm much better than you! I've got the shiny one, it goes broum! broum! Its just like the one daddy used to have, ITS SHINY! LOOK AT ME!!"
"Its broken. Some other kid broke it, it wasn't my fault, a bad kid did it and ran away.............. don't want it anymore....""Look, LOOK! Another shiny one! Buy me the shiny one! BUY ME THE SHINY ONE!!"
MartinD said:
Question is, would the original and current Dave and Bob's be willing to start again in another shed under a different name.. producing the same cars.
I'm quite surprised nobody has actually done this. Ok Marcos had a stab at it, but there's enough small scale kit car builders about, that I'm staggered no one has seriously tried to step into the market TVR vacated.Having watched Gordon Murrays program on the T25 the other night, while it's never going to be a cheap exercise, of course it can be done for not alot.
I was only thinking yesterday how mental and cool looking the Sagaris is. My brother in law went through a spate of TVR ownership which was entertaining to observe from the relative comfort of my Jap 4wd wannabe rally car. He had a tuscan, sold that for a cerb, which caught fire on the A30 after it was serviced and burnt to the ground, which was followed by another cerb(!??). I remember being shown round it for the first time and when he unplugged the sat nav from the ciggie lighter, the whole fitting came out. This was fairly standard practice for the brand.
But my god, what a noise. I mean seriously, the cars on the road, warts and all were amazing. My evo was great, but the red rose edition cerbera he had was stunning.
I was only thinking yesterday how mental and cool looking the Sagaris is. My brother in law went through a spate of TVR ownership which was entertaining to observe from the relative comfort of my Jap 4wd wannabe rally car. He had a tuscan, sold that for a cerb, which caught fire on the A30 after it was serviced and burnt to the ground, which was followed by another cerb(!??). I remember being shown round it for the first time and when he unplugged the sat nav from the ciggie lighter, the whole fitting came out. This was fairly standard practice for the brand.
But my god, what a noise. I mean seriously, the cars on the road, warts and all were amazing. My evo was great, but the red rose edition cerbera he had was stunning.
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