RE: Is the Nurburgring about to go bankrupt?
Discussion
danielhodgkiss said:
Did it really need half a billion euros invested in it? Last time I went it didn't look particularly under-funded. Also, Nurburgringworld was never really going to be a viable success, was it?
This^ I was going to go into Nurburgringworld, but it was just too expensive for what on the face of it seemed very little, explained the empty car park.Should have just left it as two tracks and the little amenities that were actually needed
me too until she ruined Lotus!WMP said:
Unfortunately it was only a matter of time.
I can't see the Touristenfahrten being stopped by anyone, however they should consider separating bikes from other traffic once a week/month though.
As a biker I would agree, it's scary being undertaken by a Porsche at speed, My 2 small contact patches vs. his 4 much larger ones mean as a biker I'll always be a bit of a disadvantage in the corners.I can't see the Touristenfahrten being stopped by anyone, however they should consider separating bikes from other traffic once a week/month though.
Problem as I saw it was the white elephant and hotel complex that no one wanted.
motorhole said:
Only things it needed were a bigger car park and bigger team of marshals!
What they've done is invested however many million Euros in trying to get a few thousand people to visit it once, while driving away the many thousands that visit on a regular basis.
Absolutely right. What they've done is invested however many million Euros in trying to get a few thousand people to visit it once, while driving away the many thousands that visit on a regular basis.
The whole amusement park nonsense was a ridiculous folly that no-one wanted. Hopefully all that crap can be sold / pulled down and the ring returned back to what it always was.
That extra Crap (Ring world, Ring werk, Ring whatever ) needs to die. Slam it i say, and get the local yokals back milking cows.
Whoever would get the idea that the 'Build it and they will come' Philosophy would work out in Whop Whop Germany.
Question is will the Bankrupcy cause them to try to finance the bail out alone on LapTickets?
I still remember the Time when a lap cost 20 Mark (or 10€) that was in 2001!
2014 40€/lap here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoever would get the idea that the 'Build it and they will come' Philosophy would work out in Whop Whop Germany.
Question is will the Bankrupcy cause them to try to finance the bail out alone on LapTickets?
I still remember the Time when a lap cost 20 Mark (or 10€) that was in 2001!
2014 40€/lap here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chicane-UK said:
motorhole said:
Only things it needed were a bigger car park and bigger team of marshals!
What they've done is invested however many million Euros in trying to get a few thousand people to visit it once, while driving away the many thousands that visit on a regular basis.
Absolutely right. What they've done is invested however many million Euros in trying to get a few thousand people to visit it once, while driving away the many thousands that visit on a regular basis.
The whole amusement park nonsense was a ridiculous folly that no-one wanted. Hopefully all that crap can be sold / pulled down and the ring returned back to what it always was.
Lanby said:
IIRC the one at the ring has never worked, but the Ringwall TV is pretty impressive
& switched off the last time I was in (on a Saturday VLN race).Still, with nothing selling in the shops I got a hoody for 12 euros which was handy, as it was about 80 degrees when we left England in April & was sleeting when we arrived!
Guvernator said:
loudlashadjuster said:
Guvernator said:
My worst fear is that the EU may just be using the Rings current financial woes as an excuse to shut the place down. I can't imagine a place that allows people to just turn up and drive cars very fast with little in the way of legislative involvement is very popular with the bureaucrats in Brussells. In fact I'd imagine there are quite a few EU greenies and Health and Safety nannies who are probably apocaleptic at the continued existence of the place.
My advice? Take the foil hat off and go outside for a bit of a stroll.As a bona fide Online Doctor I'd also recommend avoiding the Daily Mail and Express if you can.
Much love
I predict the Ring will cease to exist in it's current "turn up and drive" format within the next 10 years at most.
Edited by Guvernator on Tuesday 17th July 13:16
Will TF survive in it's current format? Do you know what, and this may seem like lighting the blue touch paper here, but I would prefer it not to.
There, I said it.
Yes, I have spent time at the 'ring and yes, I love the place dearly. But not TF.
Let the 'ring survive and thrive - but in a track day format;
Proper briefings before you are allowed on
Vehicle inspections
Overtaking clearly explained and adhered to
Fully marshalled with black flags in use to pull the idots off and blue flag the hogs
No bikes and cars together
Open pit days or sessions set up to run for novice/inter/expert etc or levels of car power to avoid the potentially massive closing speeds around places like mutkurve
Limit the number of cars on track
Would it cost more? Yes it would.
Less chance of bikers tipping a knee down just as a 911 thinks he's been left an open door to overtake on the apex.
Less chance of 800bhp supercars getting crossed up when approaching 80bhp bangers with 100+mph speed differentials.
Less chance of 'proper drivers' having to endure idiots with €26 in one pocket and a 'best of Top Gear' DVD in the other.
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