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tinkertaylor

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566 posts

143 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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I was thinking..is it legal to wear a crash helmet when driving a car? Would it make you safer?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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I had a strange feeling it wasn't allowed in the UK for some reason.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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I think it's ok on a motorbike.

CBR JGWRR

6,536 posts

150 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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tinkertaylor said:
I was thinking..is it legal to wear a crash helmet when driving a car? Would it make you safer?
Legal - not really, as the police take a dim view of it "If he needs a helmet, how bad is his driving?"

Safer - depends on the accident you are having.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Only if you are Petr Cech.

PH lurker

1,301 posts

158 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Is a Caparo T1 a car?
Would you like to wear some sort of helmet on a day out to Evo triangle in it?

Harrytsg

1,264 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Quite often see Caterhams (and similar) drivers with helmets on on the road.

mike9009

7,016 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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I can't answer the question but I would imagine it would impact the peripheral vision.

On a three yearly basis, I have to pass the peripheral vision test because I suffer from diabetes and have had laser eye surgery (to the retina and not lens!). I can pass the test with some difficulty. I am very short sighted and wear glasses. The glasses I wear impact my field vision because of the arms on the side, small lenses and frame. In fact I fail the DVLA test because of the glasses. I would imagine this would effect anyone wearing some modern style glasses!

So instead I wear contact lens to pass the test - in reality I rarely wear contact lens, especially when driving.

Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike

Rubin215

3,992 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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mike9009 said:
I can't answer the question but I would imagine it would impact the peripheral vision.

On a three yearly basis, I have to pass the peripheral vision test because I suffer from diabetes and have had laser eye surgery (to the retina and not lens!). I can pass the test with some difficulty. I am very short sighted and wear glasses. The glasses I wear impact my field vision because of the arms on the side, small lenses and frame. In fact I fail the DVLA test because of the glasses. I would imagine this would effect anyone wearing some modern style glasses!

So instead I wear contact lens to pass the test - in reality I rarely wear contact lens, especially when driving.

Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike
Another weird question: should you be on the road?

You already have impaired vision, but rather than wear contact lenses to maximise what you have, you actually choose to wear glasses that impair it even further?

You dangerous, selfish tosser!

CBR JGWRR

6,536 posts

150 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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mike9009 said:
Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike
Not as bad as you maybe expecting - all of my helmets have provided more vision than the glasses I wear...

Teocali

235 posts

188 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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tinkertaylor said:
I was thinking..is it legal to wear a crash helmet when driving a car? Would it make you safer?
I am unsure if illegal but I know a friend who was arrested for doing just this.

Following a late night karting trip he decided to leave his helmet and overalls on the drive home....

Long story short, police saw him and assumed he was ram raiding - hence an 11pm phone call home for his identify to be verified and a producer.

Although this was 10+ years ago so likely to be no police there now to see you!

tercelgold

969 posts

158 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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If the visor was tinted on the outside, would it still be legal?

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Teocali said:
tinkertaylor said:
I was thinking..is it legal to wear a crash helmet when driving a car? Would it make you safer?
I am unsure if illegal but I know a friend who was arrested for doing just this.

Following a late night karting trip he decided to leave his helmet and overalls on the drive home....

Long story short, police saw him and assumed he was ram raiding - hence an 11pm phone call home for his identify to be verified and a producer.

Although this was 10+ years ago so likely to be no police there now to see you!
A producer is hardly arrested!

daemonoid

171 posts

149 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Can't find any law preventing it.

Did manage to find the views of a few traffic plod:

http://www.policeoracle.com/forum/index.php?/topic...

Interested as my caterham is on order and I intend to wear my helmet as it has a cage.

mike9009

7,016 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Rubin215 said:
mike9009 said:
I can't answer the question but I would imagine it would impact the peripheral vision.

On a three yearly basis, I have to pass the peripheral vision test because I suffer from diabetes and have had laser eye surgery (to the retina and not lens!). I can pass the test with some difficulty. I am very short sighted and wear glasses. The glasses I wear impact my field vision because of the arms on the side, small lenses and frame. In fact I fail the DVLA test because of the glasses. I would imagine this would effect anyone wearing some modern style glasses!

So instead I wear contact lens to pass the test - in reality I rarely wear contact lens, especially when driving.

Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike
Another weird question: should you be on the road?

You already have impaired vision, but rather than wear contact lenses to maximise what you have, you actually choose to wear glasses that impair it even further?

You dangerous, selfish tosser!
Please read my post more thoroughly before being abusive! I have passed the field vision test. The only reason for failure is the style of glasses that everyone wears, not just me! It is just because everyone else does not have to pass a field vision test to get a driving licence.

The optician commented that despite my problems my eyesight is better than 50% of the people he regularly sees that are driving. And this is just a regular optician!

Tosser! smile

Mike

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Rubin215 said:
mike9009 said:
I can't answer the question but I would imagine it would impact the peripheral vision.

On a three yearly basis, I have to pass the peripheral vision test because I suffer from diabetes and have had laser eye surgery (to the retina and not lens!). I can pass the test with some difficulty. I am very short sighted and wear glasses. The glasses I wear impact my field vision because of the arms on the side, small lenses and frame. In fact I fail the DVLA test because of the glasses. I would imagine this would effect anyone wearing some modern style glasses!

So instead I wear contact lens to pass the test - in reality I rarely wear contact lens, especially when driving.

Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike
Another weird question: should you be on the road?

You already have impaired vision, but rather than wear contact lenses to maximise what you have, you actually choose to wear glasses that impair it even further?

You dangerous, selfish tosser!
No need!!

Rubin215

3,992 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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mike9009 said:
Rubin215 said:
mike9009 said:
I can't answer the question but I would imagine it would impact the peripheral vision.

On a three yearly basis, I have to pass the peripheral vision test because I suffer from diabetes and have had laser eye surgery (to the retina and not lens!). I can pass the test with some difficulty. I am very short sighted and wear glasses. The glasses I wear impact my field vision because of the arms on the side, small lenses and frame. In fact I fail the DVLA test because of the glasses. I would imagine this would effect anyone wearing some modern style glasses!

So instead I wear contact lens to pass the test - in reality I rarely wear contact lens, especially when driving.

Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test. However, how would this effect motorcyclists? Probably another test which is full of flaws and contradictions!

Mike
Another weird question: should you be on the road?

You already have impaired vision, but rather than wear contact lenses to maximise what you have, you actually choose to wear glasses that impair it even further?

You dangerous, selfish tosser!
Please read my post more thoroughly before being abusive! I have passed the field vision test. The only reason for failure is the style of glasses that everyone wears, not just me! It is just because everyone else does not have to pass a field vision test to get a driving licence.

The optician commented that despite my problems my eyesight is better than 50% of the people he regularly sees that are driving. And this is just a regular optician!

Tosser! smile

Mike
Read your own post!

You have only passed the test by wearing contacts, something you freely admit you do not normally do.

Therefore, for the majority of the time you would fail the test due to your choice of glasses.
There are many different styles and designs of glasses, but you choose to wear ones which restrict your vision; your choice.

Whether "everyone" wears the same style of glasses or not is immaterial; your choice restricts your vision and puts the safety of other road users at risk.

Tosser.

Riley Blue

20,984 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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mike9009 said:
Therefore I would think anyone wearing a helmet in a car would fail this test.
Better tell all those racing drivers not to wear those dangerous helmets then!

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Sometimes I put on on when its chucking it down or I'm on the motorway with the old racer.

I have passed a few police and i have not had a problem yet, I think they are always too shocked by the thing. I'm more worried that the thing will backfire and an armed police person will shoot me.

mike9009

7,016 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Rubin215 said:
Read your own post!

You have only passed the test by wearing contacts, something you freely admit you do not normally do.

Therefore, for the majority of the time you would fail the test due to your choice of glasses.
There are many different styles and designs of glasses, but you choose to wear ones which restrict your vision; your choice.

Whether "everyone" wears the same style of glasses or not is immaterial; your choice restricts your vision and puts the safety of other road users at risk.

Tosser.
Agreed in some respects. BUT do you wear glasses and have you had a field vision test (or any of your friends/ family) If they wear glasses whilst doing the test, they are likely to fail the field vision test. There is nothing unusual about my glasses (I don't look like Dame Edna for example!!) It is a flaw of the field vision test for people with who are very short sighted. If I don't wear any eye correction I cannot see the light points for the field vision test, if I wear glasses, the frame of the glasses blocks the light points which I need to trigger to prove my peripheral vision is sufficient. (from memory you need 180 degrees vision left to right and 120 degrees vision top to bottom to pass). If you even wear sunglasses the frames will block certain points within this field vision test.


Incidently I have been driving for a few years (probably covered in excess of 250,000miles) without incident. I take my health and fitness to drive seriously and declare all conditions to the DVLA who have issued me a licence. (Unlike many road users and that covers even simple vision tests). I wont declare to you my other medical conditions because that will be me resigned to being completely dangerous in your expert medical opinion.

Thanks!

Mike