RE: SOTW: SEAT Ibiza Cupra Sport
Discussion
'scuse me.Bezza1969 said:
I like your taste...what about a BX 16 valve as well? Surely one of the most
under-rated (and rare) hot hatches ever made...
BX16V - now you're talking!under-rated (and rare) hot hatches ever made...
If you really want to do it in style, how about the 4x4 version.....?
Cheers,
Jerry
ps I like this SOTW, much cooler than a Golf GTi of the same era - horrible dull things they were......
Mate of mine ran one of these (in Red - otherwise identical to that one) and it was a lovely car to drive - for people shorter than me and him!
One of the least comfy cars I've tried to drive - nowhere for long legs/big feet at all - like driving in a torture device sadly.
If you could work around it, drove well - but after 20 mins you wished you'd never bothered...
Short people will be fine
One of the least comfy cars I've tried to drive - nowhere for long legs/big feet at all - like driving in a torture device sadly.
If you could work around it, drove well - but after 20 mins you wished you'd never bothered...
Short people will be fine
chrisxr2 said:
Nice try but the 1998 64000 mile 106 gti for £999 on Autotrader wees all over this.
Which is exactly what I bought after viewing a lime green cupra after realising it was only the 8v version some 12 years ago. Still think the seat's a good shed, but I'd pick that 106 everytime.....R255 FNW where are you now?
The first car I was sad to see go. Brilliant, brilliant thing, quite raw, old school hot hatch handling (would merrily go sideways if you lifted off mid corner). Alloys were a pain in the arse (they went yellow if you didn't look after them and they had 11 million spokes to clean...).
Always regretted not getting the Cupra upgrades that were available for it. The £2500 big brake and power upgrade (AP stoppers and 175hp) would have turned it into a proper ITR baiter. Indeed I test drove an ITR and decided it simply wasn't a big enough step up from it for the money, it was that good.
Back in the day girly journalists used to complain that it was 'too raw'. Smashing
The first car I was sad to see go. Brilliant, brilliant thing, quite raw, old school hot hatch handling (would merrily go sideways if you lifted off mid corner). Alloys were a pain in the arse (they went yellow if you didn't look after them and they had 11 million spokes to clean...).
Always regretted not getting the Cupra upgrades that were available for it. The £2500 big brake and power upgrade (AP stoppers and 175hp) would have turned it into a proper ITR baiter. Indeed I test drove an ITR and decided it simply wasn't a big enough step up from it for the money, it was that good.
Back in the day girly journalists used to complain that it was 'too raw'. Smashing
Loved my little Ibiza. A few basic mods and it would quite comfortably bait 3L saloons. I bought so much kit for mine but most never made it onto the car - 6-point roll cage, motorbike throttle bodies conversion were the ones I wished I saw through. On modest 195 tyres you can have some good fun. Most of these 2L 16Vs pushed out a fair bit more than the stated 150bhp with dyno plots to show.
I've had 3 of these, the first was an 8v I bought when I was only 18, in copper, absolutely loved that car
In a bid to return to my youth again, I bought a 16v one in copper a while back that turned out to be rotten, so I replaced it with a yellow 16v, but it needed more work than I could be bothered doing to make right again, my mate bought it and binned it not long ago, shame really as it was a mint car when he was done with it
A cracking car then and still a decent steer now, certainly better than a mk3 or 4 GOlf or 6n2 Polo GTI that was sold alongside it.
I'd have another, preferably standard
In a bid to return to my youth again, I bought a 16v one in copper a while back that turned out to be rotten, so I replaced it with a yellow 16v, but it needed more work than I could be bothered doing to make right again, my mate bought it and binned it not long ago, shame really as it was a mint car when he was done with it
A cracking car then and still a decent steer now, certainly better than a mk3 or 4 GOlf or 6n2 Polo GTI that was sold alongside it.
I'd have another, preferably standard
Yay! My first car, as a "Cupra GTI"! (Cupra Sport was the 8v version PH)
I had a white one brand new, which for the time (1998), looked pretty cool and turned loads of heads. Of all the VAG GTI cars I was forced to drive, this one was the only one that had a true spirit of "GTI", which was and as summed up by a colleague who had one too, "it just wants to go".
It's a shed now for sure. If you could get 200bhp out of the engine it would be alright by today's standards.
I had a white one brand new, which for the time (1998), looked pretty cool and turned loads of heads. Of all the VAG GTI cars I was forced to drive, this one was the only one that had a true spirit of "GTI", which was and as summed up by a colleague who had one too, "it just wants to go".
It's a shed now for sure. If you could get 200bhp out of the engine it would be alright by today's standards.
As some people are comparing these to a 106 gti, I've owned both, well a saxo VTS but close enough...........
IMO, the French car is leagues ahead in terms of being fun to drive, far more responsive, revvy, and adjustable.
I really wanted to like the mk2 Ibiza 16v, but whilst it was by no means a bad car, I wouldn't class is as an especially appealing car to drive. I have done many miles in the later mk3 20v cupras, and once the novelty of up to 360 hp of the modded examples wears off, again not a very inspiring drive.
IMO, the French car is leagues ahead in terms of being fun to drive, far more responsive, revvy, and adjustable.
I really wanted to like the mk2 Ibiza 16v, but whilst it was by no means a bad car, I wouldn't class is as an especially appealing car to drive. I have done many miles in the later mk3 20v cupras, and once the novelty of up to 360 hp of the modded examples wears off, again not a very inspiring drive.
f1nn said:
As some people are comparing these to a 106 gti, I've owned both, well a saxo VTS but close enough...........
IMO, the French car is leagues ahead in terms of being fun to drive, far more responsive, revvy, and adjustable.
I really wanted to like the mk2 Ibiza 16v, but whilst it was by no means a bad car, I wouldn't class is as an especially appealing car to drive. I have done many miles in the later mk3 20v cupras, and once the novelty of up to 360 hp of the modded examples wears off, again not a very inspiring drive.
However, some posters reckon you can get a good Cupra GTI for £500 - you can probably expect to pay at least 4 times that for a good 106GTI, if you can ever find one. I looked at 106GTIs a while ago and couldn't find a good one that didn't look like it hadn't be ragged to death or badly modified.IMO, the French car is leagues ahead in terms of being fun to drive, far more responsive, revvy, and adjustable.
I really wanted to like the mk2 Ibiza 16v, but whilst it was by no means a bad car, I wouldn't class is as an especially appealing car to drive. I have done many miles in the later mk3 20v cupras, and once the novelty of up to 360 hp of the modded examples wears off, again not a very inspiring drive.
Saxo vts can be had for a comparable price to the Ibiza, heck, even early examples of a Clio 172 are not a million miles away.
I've owned examples of each, and whilst not a bad car, the example posted is not an especially good one and IMO overpriced as a SOTW. A mint low miles example I'd concede would be interesting, but this is neither.
I'll throw a curve ball in, on Friday I was offered an 03 grey 79k focus st170 for a grand, would any one choose a mismatched, faded, older, higher miles over that?
I've owned examples of each, and whilst not a bad car, the example posted is not an especially good one and IMO overpriced as a SOTW. A mint low miles example I'd concede would be interesting, but this is neither.
I'll throw a curve ball in, on Friday I was offered an 03 grey 79k focus st170 for a grand, would any one choose a mismatched, faded, older, higher miles over that?
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