Is this an unreasonable request

Is this an unreasonable request

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stumpage

2,112 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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RenesisEvo said:
Bit harsh - I've generally found that cheap/nasty tyres on a car points to general lack of care and willing of the owner to spend on parts and maintenance, and thus perhaps one to avoid.
Lets say you have a car that's worth about £3K that you are intending to sell in the next 6 months. You need a new set of tyres on to give it an MOT pass. Are you really going to put the best of the best, only PH approved, for we are driving gods and drive on the ragged edge of traction brand or a cheap set for a couple of hundred quid, which 99.99999% of motorists wouldn't even think about?

The brand of tyre at point of sale is not a good measure of the care that the car may have had. Only a set of receipts will do that.

XJ40

5,983 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I find badly listed cars on ebay can often be the bargains, I sometimes view list sort of responce as a plus point.

Howard-

4,952 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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markmullen said:
How much spare time have people got to go to the trouble of asking stupid questions about a car they have no intention in buying? Seriously chaps, grow up.

As for the OP, did you really ask what brand of tyres were on a £3k car? They'll be black and round, if you don't like them change them when you buy the car.
The questions he asked all matter to me when buying a car, and I'm sure most other prudent individuals. If I was the seller, I'd be quite happy to answer these questions whether I was selling a £500 car, a £5000 car or a £50,000 car. To some people, me included, £3000 is quite a lot of money.

The pathetic "I can't be bothered" and "it'll do" attitude that so many people in this country exhibit really stinks. frown

stumpage said:
Lets say you have a car that's worth about £3K that you are intending to sell in the next 6 months. You need a new set of tyres on to give it an MOT pass. Are you really going to put the best of the best, only PH approved, for we are driving gods and drive on the ragged edge of traction brand or a cheap set for a couple of hundred quid, which 99.99999% of motorists wouldn't even think about?
I would fit good quality branded tyres, yes. After all, I'd have to drive it for up to 6 months...

Edited by Howard- on Tuesday 24th July 17:22

markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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anonymous said:
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If it was going into the trade I wouldn't care, as long as they were legal. With retail cars we more often than not change them, and do them in pairs.

Hassle is the key here, I would suggest that the seller in the OP has decided that the OP is going to be too much hassle to deal with on the basis of his first communication, rightly or wrongly.

falkster

4,258 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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[quote=XJ40]I find badly listed cars on ebay can often be the bargains, I sometimes view list sort of responce as a plus point.[/quote

Agreed!!

I've said before, people need to keep their heads jammed up their own arses because it leaves more potential bargains for us less anal bargain hunters.


chongwong

1,045 posts

148 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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how does, 'how many cylinders does the engine contain, And how many valves per cylinder does it have?' sound?

markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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chongwong said:
how does, 'how many cylinders does the engine contain, And how many valves per cylinder does it have?' sound?
Juvenile.

PUA

1,060 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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In my experience when I've come to sell cars privately, the people who asked huge lists of questions are actually the least likely to buy. I think it may be because they are looking to tick lots of boxes or expecting to find an absolutely mint car which by some crazy error is priced 20% less than it should be

66comanche

2,369 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I think a lot of sellers on a £2.7k car are going to balk at a buyer asking about tyre depth by email, besides I doubt most people would know how to measure it!

hadenough!

Original Poster:

3,785 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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markmullen said:
If it was going into the trade I wouldn't care, as long as they were legal. With retail cars we more often than not change them, and do them in pairs.

Hassle is the key here, I would suggest that the seller in the OP has decided that the OP is going to be too much hassle to deal with on the basis of his first communication, rightly or wrongly.
...Which is fine, because I've decided he's to much of a 'tard.

S10GTA

12,686 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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The Xsara I was looking at was only 750 quid but I asked what tyres were fitted. I wanted to know if they had kept OEM or if I needed to factor in 4 new ones.

markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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PUA said:
In my experience when I've come to sell cars privately, the people who asked huge lists of questions are actually the least likely to buy. I think it may be because they are looking to tick lots of boxes or expecting to find an absolutely mint car which by some crazy error is priced 20% less than it should be
Be careful, with common sense like that you'll be accused of being the downfall of society.

Howard- said:
The pathetic "I can't be bothered" and "it'll do" attitude that so many people in this country exhibit really stinks. frown
I agree £3,000 is a lot of money to some, and I have no problem with that, it is just the unrealistic expectation that a car at that price will be like new. If you want an unblemished, untouched, astoundingly clean never smoked in (a lighter? oh the huge manatee), never had any paint, never thrashed, never seen bad weather or road salt car the only way to guarantee it is to buy new. At the lower end of the market you are going to have to accept compromises and if it turns out that you have to replace the set of low treaded Jupiter Darkhorses then so be it.

markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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hadenough! said:
...Which is fine, because I've decided he's to much of a 'tard.
And that's your prerogative but neither of you are any further on for this exchange, you've not got a car and he's not got a handful of money.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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hadenough! said:
Recieved this response:

GO TO THE GARAGE TO BUY A CAR WOULD BE BEST THING FOR YOU TO DO
Wouldn't it be best for him to sell the car to a dealer, rather than privately, if he cannot cope with questions during an online auction? smile

falkster

4,258 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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S10GTA said:
The Xsara I was looking at was only 750 quid but I asked what tyres were fitted. I wanted to know if they had kept OEM or if I needed to factor in 4 new ones.
So you were that bothered about tyres you bought the wrong car?

hadenough!

Original Poster:

3,785 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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66comanche said:
I think a lot of sellers on a £2.7k car are going to balk at a buyer asking about tyre depth by email, besides I doubt most people would know how to measure it!
no need to be so literal,
"4 continentals, the fronts are about 10k old and rhe rears about 5k old"

Would do.

Does 3 really class as loads of questions?

S10GTA

12,686 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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falkster said:
S10GTA said:
The Xsara I was looking at was only 750 quid but I asked what tyres were fitted. I wanted to know if they had kept OEM or if I needed to factor in 4 new ones.
So you were that bothered about tyres you bought the wrong car?
Yeah, that was an eBay accident....

hadenough!

Original Poster:

3,785 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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markmullen said:
I agree £3,000 is a lot of money to some, and I have no problem with that, it is just the unrealistic expectation that a car at that price will be like new. If you want an unblemished, untouched, astoundingly clean never smoked in (a lighter? oh the huge manatee), never had any paint, never thrashed, never seen bad weather or road salt car the only way to guarantee it is to buy new.
My expecatations are entirely realistic having worked for used car dealers from the age of 12 to 21.

There's no point in me viewing a car that I have no interest in.

Answering my questions would provide that clarity and prevent us both wasting our time.

Howard-

4,952 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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markmullen said:
I agree £3,000 is a lot of money to some, and I have no problem with that, it is just the unrealistic expectation that a car at that price will be like new. If you want an unblemished, untouched, astoundingly clean never smoked in (a lighter? oh the huge manatee), never had any paint, never thrashed, never seen bad weather or road salt car the only way to guarantee it is to buy new. At the lower end of the market you are going to have to accept compromises and if it turns out that you have to replace the set of low treaded Jupiter Darkhorses then so be it.
Come on, he's asked about the service history, what tyres it has and any MOT advisories. Elementary car purchase enquiry questions regardless of how valuable the vehicle is.

FLASHG1981

101 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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As someone who had a company buying and selling cars I can say that I don't ever recall who sent me a message asking me any questions about the car ever having bought one from me. The more recent cars I have sold I ignore any emails I receive. Also I wouldn't see someone having four expensive tyres as a good sign more likely to be someone who likes to push the car to the limits and best to be avoided.