Will my car fail it's MOT for having ESP light on?
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Yes it will fail.
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing...
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing...
article said:
If you've been happily ignoring a warning light because it's not checked in the MOT you could be facing an MOT failure and an expensive repair bill in 2012 because of changes to the test.
The Department for Transport is adding a number of new mandatory test items to the annual MOT from 1 January 2012 to comply with a revised European testing directive.
The aim of the revised directive (2009/40/EC) is to harmonise minimum test requirements across Europe and make sure the test reflects the electrical/electronic complexity of modern car safety features.
The new testable components* are subject to a 'bedding in' period during which any defects found in these components will be advisory only.
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Electronic Stability Control
Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.
The "bedding in" period referred to ended on 31st March 2012, prior to which it would have resulted in an advisory notice and you'd have had until next year to rectify it. The Department for Transport is adding a number of new mandatory test items to the annual MOT from 1 January 2012 to comply with a revised European testing directive.
The aim of the revised directive (2009/40/EC) is to harmonise minimum test requirements across Europe and make sure the test reflects the electrical/electronic complexity of modern car safety features.
The new testable components* are subject to a 'bedding in' period during which any defects found in these components will be advisory only.
...
Electronic Stability Control
Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.
MSTRBKR said:
So how long is the 'bedding in' period now? I have an airbag light on my car which I'm going to pay to fixed (tried every known DIY method) for the MOT in September, it would be good if I don't have to do it right now.
No idea tbh I don't think vosa knows yet so you should be okLast I heard was that it 'may' come in at the end of September 2012 at the earliest. My local MOT tester said this, but he said it is more likely to drag on for several years before it comes in properly.
There was some legislation due in which would effect vehicles over 3500kg in 2009, but this still has not come into force......
Mike
There was some legislation due in which would effect vehicles over 3500kg in 2009, but this still has not come into force......
Mike
mike9009 said:
Last I heard was that it 'may' come in at the end of September 2012 at the earliest. My local MOT tester said this, but he said it is more likely to drag on for several years before it comes in properly.
So all of the rules that were announced this year (including air bag lights) are not yet in effect?The MOT station I was working in this week now has a huge 'map' on the wall which details - by make and model
- what warning lights a car should show before starting
- how long they should stay on after starting (in seconds)
The implication is that - at some point - that will become 'bible' and your car will fail if it doesn't do that.
Currently, however, I'm pretty sure no-one is being failed for not matching-up to it - you might get an advisory but not a failure as yet.
Can't be long tho - if they have this degree of detail available to the testers
p.s. I asked why the level of detail and they said it's been knownfor people to 'crosswire' faulty cars so that warning lights are triggered by something like the Alternator Warning light instead. That won't show the light for the correct time tho and so - sooner or later - it will fail...
- what warning lights a car should show before starting
- how long they should stay on after starting (in seconds)
The implication is that - at some point - that will become 'bible' and your car will fail if it doesn't do that.
Currently, however, I'm pretty sure no-one is being failed for not matching-up to it - you might get an advisory but not a failure as yet.
Can't be long tho - if they have this degree of detail available to the testers
p.s. I asked why the level of detail and they said it's been knownfor people to 'crosswire' faulty cars so that warning lights are triggered by something like the Alternator Warning light instead. That won't show the light for the correct time tho and so - sooner or later - it will fail...
Mr Obertshaw said:
Sorry to Hijack the thread a bit, my Micra only starts with the throttle down for the past 8 or 9 months. Is this on it's own an MOT failure? I know it may mean I fail the emissions, but more interested in weather the starting itself can be a fail?
If it won't start at all - you'll fail because they can't test it. Tell them how to start it tho and that's not an issue.Otherwise it's purely whether it passes emissions and all the other stuff - unless they changed it in the last 12 months (my old Vectra was similarly moody about starting).
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