40 mph cruisers who speed up when overtaken...

[Robb F]

superman84 said:

If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.

This is where I think your attitude is different to most others here.

People over taking you are not trying to 'outgun' you, or prove they have a quicker car. As though there is some kind of competition. They want to drive faster than you are. There is no reason to not be happy for them to do that.

You talk like you get all offended and blustered when people have the audacity to over take you, because you've been out gunned in your quicker car. Why not just drive at a speed you're happy with and let people do want to?

[monthefish]

superman84 said:

CBR JGWRR said:

Yes, but I've got a slower (on paper) vehicle than the one in front!

That's your problem not the car in front's.

Not it's not.


Stop trying to be clever - it isn't working.

[superman84]

Ramming someone and purposely driving them off the road is in way comparable to not helping someone's who wants to speed overtake you. Idiots!

[militantmandy]

superman84 said:

Ramming someone and purposely driving them off the road is in way comparable to not helping someone's who wants to speed overtake you. Idiots!

Come again?

[superman84]

said:

You are of course assuming I stopped and that the car was registered to me - we don't all play by the same rules.

A dangerous driver and a hypocrite. Sounds like you're the one lacking in endowment. Pathetic.

[Jasandjules]

superman84 said:

If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.

I am not sure I understand you. Are you saying that if I drive a Passat Diesel and you are doing 40mph in the NSL that I may not overtake you and you will speed up and risk crashing (or causing me to crash) rather than let me overtake. Whereas if I am in the TVR you will be fine and I may overtake?

I can only assume you are playing devil's advocate given some of your assertions including sticking to speed limit = safety (BTW if you do hold this view please let Pitsmanboots know as he thinks no-one int he world actually thinks this).

[superman84]

militantmandy said:

Come again?

See Redgriffs confession to ramming a car, intentionally, then driving off, because it had the audacity to brake in front of him. And threatening to drive into anyone who wont help him overtake. What a tiny todgered little

Edited by Bill on Friday 27th July 11:08

[StottyZr]

superman84 said:

See Redgriffs confession to ramming a car, intentionally, then driving off, because it had the audacity to brake in front of him. And threatening to drive into anyone who wont help him overtake. What a tiny todgered little .

Erm... You stop people overtaking you and hold them on the wrong side of the road, which is a damn good way to cause a massive accident/kill a few people.

Do you go to any meets btw? I think I'd like to meet you in person

Edited by Bill on Friday 27th July 11:29

[superman84]

Jasandjules said:

I am not sure I understand you. Are you saying that if I drive a Passat Diesel and you are doing 40mph in the NSL that I may not overtake you and you will speed up and risk crashing (or causing me to crash) rather than let me overtake. Whereas if I am in the TVR you will be fine and I may overtake?

I can only assume you are playing devil's advocate given some of your assertions including sticking to speed limit = safety (BTW if you do hold this view please let Pitsmanboots know as he thinks no-one int he world actually thinks this).

I never said I'd ever block any car trying to overtake me if I was doing 40 in a NSL.

[Captain Muppet]

superman84 said:

Jasandjules said:

I am not sure I understand you. Are you saying that if I drive a Passat Diesel and you are doing 40mph in the NSL that I may not overtake you and you will speed up and risk crashing (or causing me to crash) rather than let me overtake. Whereas if I am in the TVR you will be fine and I may overtake?

I can only assume you are playing devil's advocate given some of your assertions including sticking to speed limit = safety (BTW if you do hold this view please let Pitsmanboots know as he thinks no-one int he world actually thinks this).

I never said I'd ever block any car trying to overtake me if I was doing 40 in a NSL.

No, you just said you'd stop them overtaking by accelerating to teach them a lesson if you were doing the speed limit, which is entirely different.

By "entirely different" I do of course mean "exactly the same thing but faster".

[superman84]

StottyZr said:

Erm... You stop people overtaking you and hold them on the wrong side of the road, which is a damn good way to cause a massive accident/kill a few people.

Do you go to any meets btw? I think I'd like to meet you in person

Why, are you gay?

I never said I hold cars on the wrong side of the road.

[StottyZr]

superman84 said:

StottyZr said:

Erm... You stop people overtaking you and hold them on the wrong side of the road, which is a damn good way to cause a massive accident/kill a few people.

Do you go to any meets btw? I think I'd like to meet you in person

Why, are you gay?

I never said I hold cars on the wrong side of the road.

Yes, are you? Could be the start of something beautiful

But your saying if I go for an overtake, and the car infront decided to floor it and stop me, its my stupid fault for having a slower car than him?

[Robb F]

To be fair, he really didn't say he held cars on the other side of the road.

He did ask why he would be obliged to give them a 'helping hand'.

The answer to which is obvious, as it's written in the highway code.

[CocklePlucker]

Robb F said:

The answer to which is obvious, as it's written in the highway code.

He wouldn't understand that though, he seems a bit thick to be honest.

It is incredibly dangerous when people speed up when being overtaken, however someone that refuses to slow down should a driver make a mistake and misjudge an overtake are just as dangerous, as the fatality that occured in this manner not too far away from me a couple of years ago shows.

As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past

Edited by CocklePlucker on Friday 27th July 11:17

Edited by CocklePlucker on Friday 27th July 11:18

[StottyZr]

Robb F said:

To be fair, he really didn't say he held cars on the other side of the road.

He did ask why he would be obliged to give them a 'helping hand'.

The answer to which is obvious, as it's written in the highway code.

Your right, I've just had a quick read back through.

I think its his attitude thats irking me, in reponse to you asking about him coming up behind an RS6 doing 35 in a nsl his response was along the lines of catching it off guard and taking a run up... if thats fails... "If that fails then fair play you can't win them all"

"win them all" because overtaking somebody is about winning and loosing?

Its a very childish attitude.

[monthefish]

redgriff500 said:

superman84 said:

If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.

Whilst you are clearly trolling I'd love to meet you on the road.

I'd happily knock you off the road if you tried that with me as I have a simple rule - if someone endangers me - fk them

Once someone decided to brake test me - his car was worth far more than mine - dented more too.

Don't think that was one of your cleverest posts TBH.

A good driver should have no experience of brake testing; he shouldn't do it to another car (for obvious reasons) and he should never have had it done to him, as he should never have been tailgating badly enough to annoy someone enough to have it done to them.

[Captain Muppet]

CocklePlucker said:

As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past

I used to do epic overtaking in my 29bhp 2CV. I used to plan sometimes miles ahead - building and carrying speed through corners so I could hit a particular straight doing 60 and get past a caravan/truck/tourist. Driving along the B1145 was like playing chess, but slower. I did an FB RX7 once, made me really sad to overtake something so lovely.

[Holeshot46]

Robb F said:

To be fair, he really didn't say he held cars on the other side of the road.

He did ask why he would be obliged to give them a 'helping hand'.

The answer to which is obvious, as it's written in the highway code.

Finally someone else who can read...

This thread reminds me of the dick in a Corsa coming round a bend on the wrong side of the road trying to overtake multiple cars as I was coming towards him at 60 mph. I literally had to stop on a NSL single carriageway to avoid death... It always seems to be idiots in underpowered cars that make the most stupid moves!

Rather than being concerned about people blocking an overtake people should be concerned about whether their car is capable of completing a safe overtake. I think that's what Superman is trying to get at...

[Robb F]

Holeshot46 said:

Finally someone else who can read...

This thread reminds me of the dick in a Corsa coming round a bend on the wrong side of the road trying to overtake multiple cars as I was coming towards him at 60 mph. I literally had to stop on a NSL single carriageway to avoid death... It always seems to be idiots in underpowered cars that make the most stupid moves!

Rather than being concerned about people blocking an overtake people should be concerned about whether their car is capable of completing a safe overtake. I think that's what Superman is trying to get at...

I'm not sure how the corsa overtaking on a blind bend is relevant to this thread. There may well be a correlation between under powered cars and dangerous overtakes, but that doesn't mean they are linked.

Ask yourself what one of the groups of people who tend to drive underpowered cars are. New drivers who think they're invincible racing drivers. People who would be doing the same dumb stuff no matter what car they were in.


We are talking about a situation where a car has gone to overtake, with enough room to complete the overtake safely, but then the slower car decided to speed up and block the overtake. Which is not only against what is written in the highway code, but also a dangerous and tttish thing to do.

Superman84 believes it is the overtaking drivers fault, for not having a faster car, and thinks that there is winning and losing when being overtaken, and that people shouldn't be outgunning him in his faster car.

[Bill]

You'll have to forgive superman if he doesn't reply for a while, he's on the naughty step.