40 mph cruisers who speed up when overtaken...
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superman84, I would love to come across you on the road. as i have had issues with drivers making it as difficult as posisble to overtake, driving a extremely wide car by drifting over to the wrong side of the road mid overtake. If someone with your mentality caused me danger on the road and i had a choice to ram you off or have a head on collision due to your dangerous driving then you would be forced off the road and in a ditch.
By the sould of your attitude you must be a typically short Impreza Driver with a adanoid problem, showing off you latest customisations to the Classic STi while ranting its better than the newage model.
By the sould of your attitude you must be a typically short Impreza Driver with a adanoid problem, showing off you latest customisations to the Classic STi while ranting its better than the newage model.
CocklePlucker said:
He wouldn't understand that though, he seems a bit thick to be honest.
It is incredibly dangerous when people speed up when being overtaken, however someone that refuses to slow down should a driver make a mistake and misjudge an overtake are just as dangerous, as the fatality that occured in this manner not too far away from me a couple of years ago shows.
As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past
My bike tops out at 75 mph, and it can overtake.It is incredibly dangerous when people speed up when being overtaken, however someone that refuses to slow down should a driver make a mistake and misjudge an overtake are just as dangerous, as the fatality that occured in this manner not too far away from me a couple of years ago shows.
As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past
Edited by CocklePlucker on Friday 27th July 11:17
Edited by CocklePlucker on Friday 27th July 11:18
Captain Muppet said:
CocklePlucker said:
As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past
I used to do epic overtaking in my 29bhp 2CV. I used to plan sometimes miles ahead - building and carrying speed through corners so I could hit a particular straight doing 60 and get past a caravan/truck/tourist. Driving along the B1145 was like playing chess, but slower. I did an FB RX7 once, made me really sad to overtake something so lovely.Same, I was setting up the overtake for the preceeding 4 miles...
Driving/riding things which you can really get the most out of is great.
Robb F said:
I'm not sure how the corsa overtaking on a blind bend is relevant to this thread. There may well be a correlation between under powered cars and dangerous overtakes, but that doesn't mean they are linked.
Ask yourself what one of the groups of people who tend to drive underpowered cars are. New drivers who think they're invincible racing drivers. People who would be doing the same dumb stuff no matter what car they were in.
We are talking about a situation where a car has gone to overtake, with enough room to complete the overtake safely, but then the slower car decided to speed up and block the overtake. Which is not only against what is written in the highway code, but also a dangerous and t
ttish thing to do.
Superman84 believes it is the overtaking drivers fault, for not having a faster car, and thinks that there is winning and losing when being overtaken, and that people shouldn't be outgunning him in his faster car.
No the Corsa driver isn't particularly relevant to the thread but it brought me to the point that if you are going to overtake you should factor in all of the variables.Ask yourself what one of the groups of people who tend to drive underpowered cars are. New drivers who think they're invincible racing drivers. People who would be doing the same dumb stuff no matter what car they were in.
We are talking about a situation where a car has gone to overtake, with enough room to complete the overtake safely, but then the slower car decided to speed up and block the overtake. Which is not only against what is written in the highway code, but also a dangerous and t
ttish thing to do.Superman84 believes it is the overtaking drivers fault, for not having a faster car, and thinks that there is winning and losing when being overtaken, and that people shouldn't be outgunning him in his faster car.
Are these people dawdling along at 40mph in 3rd gear just waiting for someone to overtake them? No... In reality they would be in 5th/6th and unless they have a nice torquey car I really fail to see how, if someone is making a "safe" overtake, they would have the opportunity to react and block them from doing so.
I'm not condoning what these people appear to be doing but if you have an underpowered car and are going for an overtake it's going to be a risk you take. Unfortunately there are way too many idiots on the road and you have to account for it...
CBR JGWRR said:
Captain Muppet said:
CocklePlucker said:
As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past
I used to do epic overtaking in my 29bhp 2CV. I used to plan sometimes miles ahead - building and carrying speed through corners so I could hit a particular straight doing 60 and get past a caravan/truck/tourist. Driving along the B1145 was like playing chess, but slower. I did an FB RX7 once, made me really sad to overtake something so lovely.Same, I was setting up the overtake for the preceeding 4 miles...
Driving/riding things which you can really get the most out of is great.
The 'target' car will have driven the preceding 4 miles with nothing behind it, and as such may take a sudden action, without warning or signal, because he has assumed that there is nothing behind.
This happend to me once - I was doing this exact technique and just as I was about to overtake (having built up sufficient speed) - the target car suddenly turned right to do a U turn with no warning or signal whatsover.
Fortunately my brakes were just up the job and I managed to avoid him. The sad thing was that, had there been a collision, the courts would probably have thrown the book at me as they usually blame the 'overtaker'.
DonkeyApple said:
10 years ago when someone saw you prepping they would help you.
Today in Britain everyone is small minded and mentally feeble so you don't give them any warning. Sit back calmly and wait and then bang it past before they get the idea of trying to kill you for your audacity.
Definately the way to do it. No warning just bang it past.Today in Britain everyone is small minded and mentally feeble so you don't give them any warning. Sit back calmly and wait and then bang it past before they get the idea of trying to kill you for your audacity.
monthefish said:
CBR JGWRR said:
Captain Muppet said:
CocklePlucker said:
As for me, I'm currently driving my gf's 1.2 Clio so overtakes are a thing of the past
I used to do epic overtaking in my 29bhp 2CV. I used to plan sometimes miles ahead - building and carrying speed through corners so I could hit a particular straight doing 60 and get past a caravan/truck/tourist. Driving along the B1145 was like playing chess, but slower. I did an FB RX7 once, made me really sad to overtake something so lovely.Same, I was setting up the overtake for the preceeding 4 miles...
Driving/riding things which you can really get the most out of is great.
The 'target' car will have driven the preceding 4 miles with nothing behind it, and as such may take a sudden action, without warning or signal, because he has assumed that there is nothing behind.
This happend to me once - I was doing this exact technique and just as I was about to overtake (having built up sufficient speed) - the target car suddenly turned right to do a U turn with no warning or signal whatsover.
Fortunately my brakes were just up the job and I managed to avoid him. The sad thing was that, had there been a collision, the courts would probably have thrown the book at me as they usually blame the 'overtaker'.
He definitely knew people were behind him.
Spelling edit.
otolith said:
I think people are entitled to complain, in the sense that accelerating to block an overtake is a massively tttish thing to do, and ought to be treated as dangerous driving by BiB.
As far as I am concerned someone who does this is trying to kill me, so should be charged with attempted murder ttish thing to do, and ought to be treated as dangerous driving by BiB.
superman84]onkeyApple said:
Why wouldn't you? What does it matter what speed you or they are going at?
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Explain why I should I slow my speed to help them break the limit. Again if they're not quick enough but want to drive like a bellend - not my problem.
Because we're adults. [/]
Explain why I should I slow my speed to help them break the limit. Again if they're not quick enough but want to drive like a bellend - not my problem.
We're not traffic police, enforcing speeds is not our role. If someone wants to go past just let them. Why be a road warrior? It's not logical.
superman84 said:
Ramming someone and purposely driving them off the road is in way comparable to not helping someone's who wants to speed overtake you. Idiots!
You're right - damaging his car, which he initiated, was his choice and his life was never in danger.Speeding up when someone overtakes could easily kill someone.
And as I and others have said, if I'm going to have a crash and you initiated it, I'm damn well taking you with me rather than hit some innocent coming the other way.
How this surprises you is beyond me.
CBR JGWRR said:
monthefish said:
CBR JGWRR said:
I was setting up the overtake for the preceeding 4 miles...
Whilst this is quite a good technique (and have used it myself many a time) there's one thing you need to be very careful of:The 'target' car will have driven the preceding 4 miles with nothing behind it, and as such may take a sudden action, without warning or signal, because he has assumed that there is nothing behind.
This happend to me once - I was doing this exact technique and just as I was about to overtake (having built up sufficient speed) - the target car suddenly turned right to do a U turn with no warning or signal whatsover.
Fortunately my brakes were just up the job and I managed to avoid him. The sad thing was that, had there been a collision, the courts would probably have thrown the book at me as they usually blame the 'overtaker'.
He definitely knew people were behind him.
Spelling edit.
monthefish said:
So were all three of you setting up the overtake for the preceding 4 miles?
The truck wasn't, the renault was expecting me to go first, but didn't need to plan it from 4 miles back.I started planning the pass as soon as I realised I was closing on them.
I don't know whether they overtook the 40 mph guy, I left them behind screaming along at 10.5k - 11k rpm afterwards...
superman84 said:
If I decide to speed up so they drop back behind, noone will crash and they'll be forced to drive to speed limit thus making the road safer for all : ). Lesson learnt - dont bother being a cock and trying to outgun a quicker car. Obviously if I'm driving particularly slowly to start then this wouldn't apply.
Oh dear god, another 5 weeks of this kind of crap before school starts again 
vsonix said:
Balmoral said:
yes:
Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
When it does happen I almost feel like getting out and giving them a hug. It's almost always old chaps in flat caps driving smaller cars, too. Even got a thumbs up as I went past once too. It is a really nice feeling when people do respond well to you driving a quick-ish car progressively but non-aggressively. It seems not everyone is taught that driving is about sharing the roads and give and take, a lot of people seem to think they are islands and the 'sea' for two car-lengths radius is their sovereign territory. Gone are the days when folks would ease off and give you a left signal to let you know you're good to go. It still happens, but it's rare.
People treat us like kings of the road.
I don't get it so much now but when I had my old Rover Mini it used to happen all the time. I'd be doing 75 and catch something doing 65. I'd pull out to pass, they'd realise how slow they were going, speed up and leave me hanging out in the outside lane. I'm then faced with a choice of dropping behind (and doing it all again in 5 minutes when they start daydreaming and slow down) or, if there's a line of traffic behind me, flooring it for those extra 10mph and taking an age to pass. Assuming they don't contuinue to speed up.
I once had someone do it when I was in my Megane. I assume they thought it was a diesel and looked a bit shocked when I dropped three gears and disappeared...
I once had someone do it when I was in my Megane. I assume they thought it was a diesel and looked a bit shocked when I dropped three gears and disappeared...
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